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Old 04-05-2006, 10:28 AM   #11
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1996
Rnd Name College Note
1 Jamain Stephens North Carolina A&T
3 Steven Conley Arkansas
3 Jon Witman Penn State
4 Earl Holmes Florida A&M
4 Jahine Arnold Fresno State
5 Israel Raybon North Alabama
6 Orpheus Roye Florida State
6 Spence Fischer Duke
7 Carlos Emmons Arkansas State

96 and 97 were both bad years
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:36 AM   #12
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I had heard for years about what a great G.M> Donohoe was while with the Steelers. I even have this nicely framed autographed photo of him and he wrote me a nice letter with it. After knowing what i know now, going back through the players lost, the players drafted ect ...

BILL COWHER is one hell of a coach cause with these draft classes that were dealt him in alot of re/ was crap. I think our draft classes went much better when Bill took over
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:25 PM   #13
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check out the wr thread in the draft forum. pretty disturbing. looks like more than 50% of ALL wr's picked in the 1st round are wasted picks.
Some of those guys you completely wrote off were at least servicable, and had some productive years. Troy Edwards and a bucket of piss are on equal footing as far as NFL value is concerned...

It's EXTREMELY difficult to pick WR's who will succeed in the NFL because of the absolute stellar play of the DB's at the top level. The most important ability is to gain seperation, and it's a difficult attribute to predict.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:27 PM   #14
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this one is easy. last time we picked after a sb: 1996
Rnd Name College Note
1 Jamain Stephens North Carolina A&T
3 Steven Conley Arkansas
3 Jon Witman Penn State
4 Earl Holmes Florida A&M
4 Jahine Arnold Fresno State
5 Israel Raybon North Alabama
6 Orpheus Roye Florida State
6 Spence Fischer Duke
7 Carlos Emmons Arkansas State

No question. Was he trying to screw up? Come on! Freaking Duke? North Carolina A&T?

Is this the NBA? Thank god for Kevin Colbert.
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Some of those guys you completely wrote off were at least servicable, and had some productive years. Troy Edwards and a bucket of piss are on equal footing as far as NFL value is concerned...

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i shouldve phrased that a little better. ....wasted 1st round picks. not wasted draftpick all together. i found 11 of the 42 who lived up to their 1st round billing. about 11 who were complete flops and about 20 who WERE servicable and had productive years. this middle group of 20 is your typical cheif receiver. kennison, morton, alexander, etc. these guys never lived up to their billing and definitely werent worth where they were drafted. #2 or #3 wr at best. randel els without the passing, running, or punt return skills.

many in this middle group of wr had their most productive years after the team who initially drafted them gave up on and dumped them.

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1996, look at that!
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I give 96 a pass because, yes, of course we reached on Stephens, but he was a hot commodity that year, believe it or not...he also started 10 games for us in '98. And we uncovered a lot of hidden talent in that draft that actually produced, which provides a little balance.

In 99, we ****ed up almost from top to bottom...
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Besides Troy, 03 wasnt very good
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Besides Troy, 03 wasnt very good
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Damn I overlooked that. Alright 99`
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