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Old 12-23-2010, 12:02 PM   #21
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Default Re: Should Rooney fire Tomlin and Arians and bring back Bill Cowher?

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No. I don't think Cowher will have the passion he had the first time around. After he won the SB in 06' he came back the next season with a piss-poor attitude as far as his motivation was concerned. He didn't really want to be the coach anymore the year after the SB win and it showed (the team went 8-8 AND he retired after that year) in his actions and the team's.
I don't think he would stay too long if he did return. In addition, it would be a PR nightmare if the Rooney's replaced Tomlin with Cowher considering Tomlin has a very good W-L record since he came here.
No. Cowher had his time, its now Tomlin's ship. It would be kind of "weird" to have Cowher back now.
You seen to forget that Cowher's wife was dying of cancer during this time. While we did not know it at the time he certainly did. I suppose it's naive of me to think that his wife battling cancer might of have affected Cowher's motivation.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:08 PM   #22
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Default Re: Should Rooney fire Tomlin and Arians and bring back Bill Cowher?

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Tomlin just need to fire arians and hire someone with a brain and we'll be fine.
And if Tomlin doesn't do it?

Then what?

It's not like Tomlin has not had his chances to do so if he wanted to. I no longer believe that Tomlin wants to fire Arians and instead is protecting him.

I am not convinced that Tomlin is that good of an Xs and Os coach. If Tomlin choose to he could call the plays himself. That Tomlin lets Arians get away with being pass happy tells me that Tomlin himself is pass happy.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:20 PM   #23
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I am not convinced that Tomlin is that good of an Xs and Os coach.
Cowher definitely wasn't, but yet you want him back. He'll also command at least twice Tomlin's salary to return. I also doubt there is still any love lost between AJR II and Cowher. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not going to happen.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:23 PM   #24
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Default Re: Should Rooney fire Tomlin and Arians and bring back Bill Cowher?

Bring back Cowher??? We should have won at least 2 more superbowls under Cowhers watch but didn't and it was due in large part to Cowher being out coached by Belichek in one AFC championship in my opinion. Tomlin will continue to get better as a head coach and his number will outshine Cowher when its all said and done... IMO
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I am shocked at how many folks say we should run more. This team will not win unless we throw 35+ times a game. IMO.
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Default Re: Should Rooney fire Tomlin and Arians and bring back Bill Cowher?

I can understand the worry, but I think it's a little bit knee jerk reactionary at this point. There are a lot of teams that would love to be dealing with our "problems", from a coaching standpoint.

It makes you wonder though, if the internet had been around (and heavily used) for regular folks like us in the 80's and early 90's, what some of the conversations about Noll and Cowher would have been like then. I have a sneaking suspicion that many would have been calling for both of their heads for various reasons.

I trust the Rooneys to do what's best in this regard...they certainly know better than any of us.
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Default Re: Should Rooney fire Tomlin and Arians and bring back Bill Cowher?

i loved how cower motivated the player and dislike tomlins lack passion he seem to portray but i cant forget how cower stuck with kordell all those games when we had a great team minus our QB. if we had Ben those 2 seasons we would have at least 1 more super bowl

were never going to fire tomlin so im not going to comment further

as for running more, the only game this year i think that would of made a difference is against the jets when mendenhall was gaining over 5 yards a carry
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And if Tomlin doesn't do it?

Then what?

It's not like Tomlin has not had his chances to do so if he wanted to. I no longer believe that Tomlin wants to fire Arians and instead is protecting him.

I am not convinced that Tomlin is that good of an Xs and Os coach. If Tomlin choose to he could call the plays himself. That Tomlin lets Arians get away with being pass happy tells me that Tomlin himself is pass happy.
Well in the past, Ben supported Arians so that's why he stayed. Now Ben is in no position to be running his mouth. Also the FO would have the a thing or two to say about Arians not calling run plays when it makes sense.
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Default Re: Should Rooney fire Tomlin and Arians and bring back Bill Cowher?

No team would fire a coach because of the offensive coordinator, especially if its having success... (except jerry jones and whoever owns both the Broncos and the 49ers)
And I'm pretty sure Cowher doesn't want to come back to Pittsburgh. Just because he had success doesn't mean he'd be willing to make the Roonies fire Tomlin so he can coach here again, I'm sure like any other coach he'd rather have a challenge and build a team. Not take over a successful one.
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