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Old 01-04-2011, 05:32 PM   #11
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Default Re: What does Aaron Smith bring?

As has been said before, what he does as a player is certainly on a higher than average level but it's really about what he allows others to do that makes him valuable.

When he's in the game, he typically draws a tight end and a tackle or a tackle and a guard to block him and in some cases teams will keep a fullback in the backfield just to pick him up if he gets through. With all of those guys tied up dealing with him, he forces teams to alter their plays to account for him but the real deal is that all that attention allows guys like Farrior, Woodley, Harrison and Timmons to do what THEY do best because the other team's O-line is busy with Smith.

And when you factor in a healthy Troy along with Smith, we have a one-two punch that's hard to beat.
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Its Ziggy's show now............
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:58 PM   #13
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What doesn't smith do?
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Default Re: What does Aaron Smith bring?

It is not Ziggy's show yet. A lot of the passing attack that was unleashed against us was due to Smith being out. The LBs had to either drop in coverage (not their strength) or they couldn't get to the QB in time without Smith clogging things up. Then the corners had to play 10-15 yards off the line because the rush from the LBs was not getting to the QB. That caused all of those short 7-8 yard passes that moved teams right down the field. It appears that Ziggy has gotten better toward the end of the season but he is nowhere near Smith's level when he is full strength. The question is will he be at full strength or be a liability?
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Aaron Smith is a b-u-m. Always hurt, doesn't make plays. He occupies an o-lineman or two. I've keyed my view on him while game watching. no-thing special.
His function is to stop the run as an end in a 3-4 base. He has two gap assignments. If he misses, you never hear about it. But you seldom hear his name called at all. He isn't under rated, he is just under mentioned, because you have to actually do something to have your name called. He is by no means a playmaker.
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Aaron Smith is a b-u-m. Always hurt, doesn't make plays. He occupies an o-lineman or two. I've keyed my view on him while game watching. no-thing special.
His function is to stop the run as an end in a 3-4 base. He has two gap assignments. If he misses, you never hear about it. But you seldom hear his name called at all. He isn't under rated, he is just under mentioned, because you have to actually do something to have your name called. He is by no means a playmaker.
what he does is excel in the run game and takes on 2 blockers during passing downs which lets our linebackers get thru
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Somebody's got 4-3 envy.
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It is not Ziggy's show yet. A lot of the passing attack that was unleashed against us was due to Smith being out. The LBs had to either drop in coverage (not their strength) or they couldn't get to the QB in time without Smith clogging things up. Then the corners had to play 10-15 yards off the line because the rush from the LBs was not getting to the QB. That caused all of those short 7-8 yard passes that moved teams right down the field. It appears that Ziggy has gotten better toward the end of the season but he is nowhere near Smith's level when he is full strength. The question is will he be at full strength or be a liability?
How does smith being out have anything to do with passing attacks against the steelers? Makes no sense. Smith doesn't get pressure on the Qb? It's not his job. his job is to plug the hole off guard and off tackle.? Make tackles at the line of scrimmage. The OLB doesn't depend on smith for a damn thing to do the OLB job.

If the runner gets past smith, the weak inside linebacker is supposed to make the tackle. Foote or Timmons, i believe. To say Lb's had to drop n coverage or couldn't get to the Qb without smith clogging things up is perhaps, the dumbest reasoning I've ever heard.

WTF does smith being out have to do with an LB dropping into coverage?
WTF does smith being out have to do with a LB getting to the QB?

And the DB's play 10 yards off to keep everything in front of them. Why? Well, if there is no safety help deep, thats the way you play your man. Troy and Ryan like to play the soft spots shallow. cover soft spots, slants, crossing and outs - jump routes and blast an across the middle reciever. When Troy and Ryan play two deep, the CB's play in the WR's face.

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what he does is excel in the run game and takes on 2 blockers during passing downs which lets our linebackers get thru
He takes on two blockers if the guard and tackle have to block him if he takes that gap. Which he would, if the OLB is blitzing. But he can be handled easily with a tackle, or even a TE can block him.
Smith is like 6-6 and 300 lbs. Big enough to get in the way in the hole. If smith could get pressure, you wouldn't need an OLB to blitz from that side.
He doesn't shed blockers well, and he doesn't make plays.
He's white, and thats cool. But I'd take Hoke or Kiesel anyday, over smith. no contest.
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Somebody's got 4-3 envy.
Actually, i like the 4-6.

I like a 3-4 because i like to see the OLb like Mike Merriweather, Greg Lloyd, Kevin Greene, Joey Porter, James Harrison, do their thing.

But I like the 4-3 as well, because i like to see the big guys attack from up the gut.

I don't think a team should be married to either. A good, stout o-line can block a 3-4 scheme. Sometimes you need to go 4-3 and slug it out in the trenches.

A 3-4 basically uses bodies to occupy d-line space and lets the LB's be the heroes.
A 4-3 uses 4 big guys to get after the QB and make tackles for losses.

I like the 4-6, but you need 3 corners and three safties, with two of the safties having the ability to cover like a safety, and hit and tackle like a OLB. The third safety has to be able to cover like a corner and hit like a safety.
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