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Old 01-05-2011, 03:00 PM   #21
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Well Flacco was ahead of Ben going into the last game in QB ratings. For some reason Joe couldn't figure out Cincinnati this year, throw out those two games and he'd be one of the top. Maybe our old coach Marvin Lewis has our number, even though he can't beat anyone else besides the Ravens.

Flacco also finished ahead of Manning and Drew Brees this year. Perhaps Joe is not quite an elite QB yet, but he is pretty close to one now.

Finishing in the "top 5" is a somewhat arbitrary way of measuring a QB. I'd say there's not that much difference between number 5 and 7. With the Ravens revamped receiving corps and Ray Rice, I have to give the Ravens the edge in the playoffs should the two teams meet again. . I'd say the QB's are about a draw, but the Ravens have the edge with greater offensive talent.
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Joe has played in 5 playoff games and has completed less than 50% of his passes with 6 interceptions and 1 TD. 57 Completions / 120 Attempts (47.5%) for 660 yds.


Yeah, he really shows up when it counts.

Flacco plays well when he's well-protected. When he's blitzed he stinks...he can't handle pressure at ALL.
Congrats to Ben....proven one of the most consistent QB's in the game. I'd never trade Ben for Flacco or really for any of those others and i'm glad he's our QB
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No it was called a stop on the field, on the 1/2 foot line. then they awarded the Steelers a TD after reviewing the replays. That was why all the commentators said it was a terrible call, they said there was no proof one way or the other, and the call on the field should have stood. You could not tell from the angles whether he had broken the end zone plane or not.
Ummm...it was called a TD on the field. I know you want to do everything humanly possible to forget that play, but it's true. It was initially called a TD and there was not enough evidence to overturn it.

If you don't believe me, and think the commentators (Nantz and Simms) said there was no TD call and that the no TD call should have stood, then maybe you should hear them talk about the TD call on the field being upheld in their postgame wrap-up.

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But Flacco proved he can beat the Steelers in Pittsburgh by taking his team for a game winning TD with no timeouts left and that was a big milestone.
Yes, but it's too bad the Steelers won't be starting their 4th string QB every time, huh?
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Finishing in the "top 5" is a somewhat arbitrary way of measuring a QB. I'd say there's not that much difference between number 5 and 7. With the Ravens revamped receiving corps and Ray Rice, I have to give the Ravens the edge in the playoffs should the two teams meet again. . I'd say the QB's are about a draw, but the Ravens have the edge with greater offensive talent.
People who dismiss passer rating tend not to have a QB with a high rating on their team. Seven of the top ten QBs in passer rating, and nine of the top twelve are in the playoffs right now. Two that didn't make it (Josh Freeman and Phillip Rivers) came exceptionally close. These aren't coincidences.

If your point is that being ranked seventh is good enough, we'll see. My perception is that Flacco is competent in the regular season, and a postseason choker. His playoff passer rating is 46.5. Let's see if that gets any better this year. I kind of doubt it.
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Joe couldn't be that bad in the playoffs because he took his team to the AFC Championship game with two playoff wins two years ago, then the Ravens soundly spanked New England on the road last year in the first round.
4/10 for 34 yards and 1 INT. The only thing Flacco did against NE last year was not screw up and singlehandedly lose the game. He did next to nothing to influence that win. It was all Rice and the defense.
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Sometimes you don't need to pass well, when your team is well out in front like the NE game last year. The important thing is the "W".

Joe couldn't be that bad in the playoffs because he took his team to the AFC Championship game with two playoff wins two years ago, then the Ravens soundly spanked New England on the road last year in the first round.
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Stats from the Pats game: 4-10 for 34 yards and 1 INT.

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Flacco has not made that big step from good QB to Franchise QB.
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Default Re: Big Ben top 5 in passer rating again

To be fair to bobby, Ben bearly made it into the top 5... Flacco is only like 2 points down.

But if you take into account that Ben doesn't have blocking and makes a lot of passes while running for his life, and Flacco has a very good line, but still can't get a higher rating that Ben shows that Ben is the better NFL quarterback.

Flacco is def a franchise QB in Baltimore though if you look at their history with Quarterbacks... lol
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Stats in Dolphins game: 9-23, 135 yards

Stats in Titans game: 11-22, 148 yards, 1 TD

Stats from AFC Championship Game against the Steelers:13-30 for 141 yards, 3 INTs and 3 sacks.

2009-10:

Stats from the Pats game: 4-10 for 34 yards and 1 INT.

Stats from Colts game: 20-35 for 189 yards and 2 INTs.


Yeah, total stud you got there.
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