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Old 01-07-2011, 02:52 PM   #11
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http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...afc-north-team

Here, I'll heat it up in here.

Offense

Quarterback: Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens

Skinny: Had Ben Roethlisberger not missed four games, he probably would have surpassed Flacco. But "Joe Cool" gets the nod in his third season after leading the Ravens to 12 wins and their third consecutive playoff appearance. His next step is to perform well in the postseason.

Generally I like James Walker, and I understand his perspective to some extent, but really? Flaccid over Ben?!!! As the guys on ESPN say, "C'mon man!!"

Flacco over Ben? Going into the playoffs, that's going out on a limb. Here's the playoff stat lines for both QB's. Big Ben may be the best big game QB of all time. Joe's stats may be the worst of any QB that's played in at least 5 playoff games.


Ben 8-2 172-278 61.5% 2,239yds 15TD 12INT
Joe 3-2 57-120 45.9% 660yds 1TD 6INT

an avg. QB rating is probably 75-80.

Joe has had one game above avg. at 89. In the other 4 games he has been pathetic with his 2nd best playoff performance at a 59.

Ben on the other hand has had 2 incredible games of 149 and 125 ratings and 8 of his 10 playoff games have been higher than 78.

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Old 01-07-2011, 03:01 PM   #12
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Default Re: Attention Ben Roethlisberger doubters and haters.

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Here, I'll heat it up in here.

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Quarterback: Joe Flacco, Baltimore Ravens

Skinny: Had Ben Roethlisberger not missed four games, he probably would have surpassed Flacco. But "Joe Cool" gets the nod in his third season after leading the Ravens to 12 wins and their third consecutive playoff appearance. His next step is to perform well in the postseason.

Generally I like James Walker, and I understand his perspective to some extent, but really? Flaccid over Ben?!!! As the guys on ESPN say, "C'mon man!!"
Uh Oh zulater...you gonna give bobbyjr. a woody
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I'm calling it now: The hero of this playoff series will be HEATH MILLER.
You spelled Emmanuel Sanders wrong.
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Old 01-07-2011, 03:12 PM   #14
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Make your presense known now, before the Steelers play a playoff game. No one wants to hear your ass if we lose a game come on here afterwards telling us how you knew it all along.

So tell us now or forever hold your peace.
Sure no problem. If he plays a game like he did against Cleveland we should coast to the 7th Super Bowl victory. I think he has been super inconsistent this year. He is the leader of this offense that has looked so bad this year , redzone especially. People give him all the credit when we win so it only fair that as bad as this offense has looked should reflect on him. He struggled against Baltimore,Buffalo,Cinncy, New Orleans,Jets, New England he looked terrible until garbage time and Miami he almost fumbled the game away,he did really we got a gift from the refs. So yeah if Ben plays like he did in those games we will probably lose. The defense has done its job all year, its a joke in the games like Buffalo that we can blow that team off the field. To me poor Qb play is the reason. He has games that he either make passes to the WR's shoe laces or over there heads 4 feet. He looked great against the browns,right the lowly browns. Can he be that good against a playoff caliber team next week ? I have my doubts.
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big ben as usual will march down the field and win the games with bombs,pinpoint passing..comparing him to flacco n the playoffs is a complete joke and really no comparison there...ben is the best with the game on the line...best big game qb out there,,,,,
good news guys when ravens play brady in 2 weeks they are goin to hutr him and he wont be playin against us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! crystal ball says!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sure no problem. If he plays a game like he did against Cleveland we should coast to the 7th Super Bowl victory. I think he has been super inconsistent this year. He is the leader of this offense that has looked so bad this year , redzone especially. People give him all the credit when we win so it only fair that as bad as this offense has looked should reflect on him. He struggled against Baltimore,Buffalo,Cinncy, New Orleans,Jets, New England he looked terrible until garbage time and Miami he almost fumbled the game away,he did really we got a gift from the refs. So yeah if Ben plays like he did in those games we will probably lose. The defense has done its job all year, its a joke in the games like Buffalo that we can blow that team off the field. To me poor Qb play is the reason. He has games that he either make passes to the WR's shoe laces or over there heads 4 feet. He looked great against the browns,right the lowly browns. Can he be that good against a playoff caliber team next week ? I have my doubts.

I guess you're entitled to your opinion. But statistically, Ben's worst game this year was N.O. with a 67 QB rating. He's had a bunch of pretty good games and most importantly he's taken care of the ball this year. Only 5 INT's in 12 games.
He's also been very good in the playoffs in the past. 8 of his 10 playoff performances have been avg. to great. He's had 2 bad games in the playoffs. And those numbers are against playoff teams, which should be the best teams, right.
It wouldn't shock me if he had a bad game in the playoffs, but odds are he won't.
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It looks to me that Ben is finally hitting his stride and in sync with the receivers after the lack of preseason time, the suspension and having to knock the rust off. I think it comes more down to if the O-line can continue to protect him like they have the past few games. They have stepped up their game a bit and Ben seems to be getting rid of the ball quicker on slant patterns and passes to the RBs out of the backfield. If they continue doing those things, I think the sky's the limit with this team. They just need to find a way to beat the Cheatriots* in my opinion. Ben is going to have a huge playoff run IMHO.
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Ben and the Offense haven't been particularly impressive against strong teams. Now that we'll be playing Superbowl candidates, I hope they'll show a totally different face otherwise it could be a very short post season.
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I actually think ben will shine and our defense is gettin healthier and have been playing better pass defense as of late..........this year seems like a year that has doubters from the beginning but this core group has been through many wars and has come out on top, throw in some of our younger rising stars ( timmons , pouncey , wallace , sanders , brown , hood , mendy , etc ) and i think we have a killer recipe. " our number and our goal is seven , our playmaker on def . troy #43 (4+3 =7 ) and on offense is #7 "
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Sure no problem. If he plays a game like he did against Cleveland we should coast to the 7th Super Bowl victory. I think he has been super inconsistent this year. He is the leader of this offense that has looked so bad this year , redzone especially. People give him all the credit when we win so it only fair that as bad as this offense has looked should reflect on him. He struggled against Baltimore,Buffalo,Cinncy, New Orleans,Jets, New England he looked terrible until garbage time and Miami he almost fumbled the game away,he did really we got a gift from the refs. So yeah if Ben plays like he did in those games we will probably lose. The defense has done its job all year, its a joke in the games like Buffalo that we can blow that team off the field. To me poor Qb play is the reason. He has games that he either make passes to the WR's shoe laces or over there heads 4 feet. He looked great against the browns,right the lowly browns. Can he be that good against a playoff caliber team next week ? I have my doubts.

Roethlisberger is and always will be great! I think the problem (B.A) never even steps onto the field.
I think a big problem with Roethlisberger and the offense IS the inconsitancy. I don't know if it's the style of offense they run or what.
I was going to back up Buffalo and say that their defense was pretty tough, but it seems they were 28th in scoring and 24th in total yards allowed. ouch.
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