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Old 01-12-2011, 12:05 PM   #1
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Default Why Big Ben Measures Up to Brady

(I'm not an EPSN insider, so I can't get the whole article...)
Updated: January 11, 2011, 5:57 PM ETWhy Big Ben measures up to Brady
The Pittsburgh quarterback has excelled in a more explosive offenseEmail By KC Joyner
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By the end of the 1977 NFL season, Pittsburgh Steelers star Terry Bradshaw could have had every reason in the world to feel like the world's most overlooked quarterback.

Over the previous six years, he had posted a stellar 49-17 regular-season record and an equally impressive 8-4 postseason mark. Two of those playoff wins were Super Bowl victories and in both of those contests he threw a fourth-quarter touchdown pass that helped seal the win for the Steelers.

Despite this abundance of success, Bradshaw still seemingly had not convinced the world he was among the best at his position. Proof of this can be found in the 1977 All-Pro and Pro Bowl voting.

Bradshaw had guided his team to a 9-5 record and the AFC Central Division title and yet was beaten out for those postseason honors not just by the likes of Bob Griese and Roger Staubach (the consensus choices as the top quarterbacks of that season), but also by lesser talents such as Pat Haden and Jim Hart.

Near the end of the 2010 season, Ben Roethlisberger could be in exactly the same kind of overlooked boat as his Black and Gold predecessor. Like Bradshaw, he has a superb regular-season record (69-29, a .704 win percentage that is third-best of any quarterback since 1970) and a dominant 8-2 postseason mark that includes two Super Bowl titles.


Also like Bradshaw, Roethlisberger is coming off a campaign where his team went 9-3 with him under center and won a hard-fought division title. Still, it wasn't enough for him to be named one of the six quarterbacks going to the Pro Bowl.

While that certainly doesn't seem fair on its face, what makes it even more unjust is that a closer look at the game tape and metrics shows that Big Ben was just as good this season as AFC Pro Bowl starter -- and all but certain 2010 NFL MVP -- Tom Brady.



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Old 01-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why Big Ben Measures Up to Brady

Big Ben has a chance to measure up to a T with Brady in the next two weeks. If he beats the Ravens, and then goes into Gillette and beats NE and wins the Super Bowl, Big Ben will be on par 100%.
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Default Re: Why Big Ben Measures Up to Brady

Here we go again! By the way, the article talks about Bradshaw and not Brady.

Here is how Ben measured up to Brady during the 2010 regular season.

Brady (16 games)
QB rating: 111.0
Pct completion: 65.9%
TDs passing: 36
TD rushing: 1
INT: 4
Sacks: 25
Fumbles lost: 1

Ben: (12 games)
QB rating: 97.0
Pct completion: 61.7%
TDs passing: 17
TDs rushing: 2
INT: 5
Sacks: 32
Fumbles lost: 3

No comment ................
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Here we go again! By the way, the article talks about Bradshaw and not Brady.

Here is how Ben measured up to Brady during the 2010 regular season.

Brady (16 games)
QB rating: 111.0
Pct completion: 65.9%
TDs passing: 36
TD rushing: 1
INT: 4
Sacks: 25
Fumbles lost: 1

Ben: (12 games)
QB rating: 97.0
Pct completion: 61.7%
TDs passing: 17
TDs rushing: 2
INT: 5
Sacks: 32
Fumbles lost: 3

No comment ................
Tom Brady is a GREAT decision maker with a pretty good arm (not the best). Probably is #1 right now. Stats aside, he didn't "make" a single play that I saw this year. Can't recall ever seeing him "make" a play. Throwing an accurate pass to an open or somewhat open reciever is the job of every QB.
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How about we focus on the task at hand, which is the Ravens?
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How about we focus on the task at hand, which is the Ravens?
Not trying to be a dick or anything, but why do WE need to focus on anything? What difference does it make if WE (a bunch of people on a message board) talk about something other than the game this weekend? If you hear a player from the Steelers talking about Ben vs Brady, then I could see where this comment applies. WE don't play the games...
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Since bobby jr. has been banned, I'll go ahead and fill-in for him :

*ahem*

Roethlisberger is a mediocre QB with an above-average defense. He isn't half as talented as Joe Flacco though.
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Tom Brady is a GREAT decision maker with a pretty good arm (not the best). Probably is #1 right now. Stats aside, he didn't "make" a single play that I saw this year. Can't recall ever seeing him "make" a play. Throwing an accurate pass to an open or somewhat open reciever is the job of every QB.
Throwing an accurate pass is the job of every QB, that's true, but some do it better than others, hence their better stats, higher ranking and higher salary.

As for Brady not making plays, I'm not sure I understand what it means. Do you have examples of plays that Brady can't make? Looking at his numbers, he seems to make a shitload of plays no? Granted he's more a pocket passer than Ben but in the pocket, the guy is deadly.
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Not trying to be a dick or anything, but why do WE need to focus on anything? What difference does it make if WE (a bunch of people on a message board) talk about something other than the game this weekend? If you hear a player from the Steelers talking about Ben vs Brady, then I could see where this comment applies. WE don't play the games...
So true. Like we have any say or influence on the Steelers and how they're gonna play Saturday.
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Numbers, MVPs, throwing percentages do not mean dick in the NFL. Winning Super Bowl's does. And its only getting worse. Look at Manning, he has everything in a career a QB can have, he has a Super Bowl AND an MVP super bowl and he is still looked at as a choker. Winning multiple Super bowl's is all football cares about as a QB.
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