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Old 01-17-2011, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default Can Ben beat the Jets' coverage?

As I'm sure you guys have seen the past two weeks, the Jets have changed up their gameplan against elite quarterbacks in Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. The typical Rex Ryan overload blitz, extreme pressure on the QB plan has gone out the window.

The Jets have sent only 3 or 4 men at the QB 87% of the time this postseason. Compare this with them sending only 3 or 4 men 36% of the time last postseason. Heard that stat on Mike and Mike.

That being said, the Jets' coverage has been absolutely outstanding. On one play yesterday, Brady had more than eight seconds on a third down, and still couldn't even complete a pass. In two consecutive weeks, the best quarterbacks in the game have been stumped.

Can Ben and the Steelers run an effective pass offense against the Jets unlike Brady and Manning? What do you guys think... Will Roethlisberger and the receivers solve the Jets D? And if so, how will they do it?
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"Number seven.'' "Seventh straight win over Baltimore (by number seven), seventh season in the league,
trying to get the Steelers to their seventh Super Bowl [title], won by seven tonight. Power of seven, brother.''

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Old 01-17-2011, 02:15 PM   #3
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Default Re: Can Ben beat the Jets' coverage?

yes he can. and sending 3-4 against brady and manning will work, but ben roethlisberger has a MUCH different style of play. You cannot attack him the same way you would brady/manning or you will get killed.

The way to stop ben is to keep him in the pocket and give him no time at all to throw. You send 3-4 rushers at him, he will extend the play and someone will get open. When he gets outside of the pocket, his eyes are still always downfield and he will find the opening in a defense and hit it. He's lived by this throughout his entire career. The ONLY times I ever see him have a bad game is due to the rush being in his face constantly. If you give him all day to throw he WILL beat you. He is very much unlike brady/manning who mostly depend on timing patterns. Ben lives on improvision.

Also I would worry about mendenhall as well, he did rush for 98 against you guys in the last meeting. Your defense will have their hands full.
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But the thing you forget is neither of those two teams have a running game like ours. And Mendenhall ran it down your throats last game. So, rush only 3 to 4, and we will make you pay on runs. Try to advance Coleman off the edge, and Antonio Brown or even Sanders will kill your slow back-up secondary people on short quick-hitters. Not to mention BOTH Revis and " Cro-Fro " are totally scared of Wallace, and will be way, way way off the line against him for fear of being beat deep. So the middle will be wide open for Wallace...just like in game 1 where he torched you guys.
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Default Re: Can Ben beat the Jets' coverage?

it will be tough but ben will do alot better against that defense then brady did. the real question is can Sanchez survive our defense
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Default Re: Can Ben beat the Jets' coverage?

Also Ben isn't a statue back there. He can and will move around to make things happen.
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yes he can. and sending 3-4 against brady and manning will work, but ben roethlisberger has a MUCH different style of play. You cannot attack him the same way you would brady/manning or you will get killed.

The way to stop ben is to keep him in the pocket and give him no time at all to throw. You send 3-4 rushers at him, he will extend the play and someone will get open. When he gets outside of the pocket, his eyes are still always downfield and he will find the opening in a defense and hit it. He's lived by this throughout his entire career.

Also I would worry about mendenhall as well, he did rush for 98 against you guys in the last meeting. Your defense will have their hands full.
Agreed that Ben is definitely a changeup from the always-in-the-pocket TB & PM. This is why Sunday should be so intriguing to see what Rex Ryan can dial up to confuse Ben. The problem with trying to send more rushers at the QB with the 2010 Jets is that this team has a terrible pass rush. No one can beat his man one on one on this defense, and all of the overload blitzes from 2009 were figured out in the offseason by means of studying the tape. I think the majority of the five sacks of Brady were coverage sacks and not just a straight pass rush.

That's why I think you'll see a continued emphasis on coverage. Jets dressed 11 DB's for the game yesterday, and only four down linemen. That is insane.

I'd like to see Revis on Mike Wallace the whole game, so he gets shut down.
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But the thing you forget is neither of those two teams have a running game like ours. And Mendenhall ran it down your throats last game. So, rush only 3 to 4, and we will make you pay on runs. Try to advance Coleman off the edge, and Antonio Brown or even Sanders will kill your slow back-up secondary people on short quick-hitters. Not to mention BOTH Revis and " Cro-Fro " are totally scared of Wallace, and will be way, way way off the line against him for fear of being beat deep. So the middle will be wide open for Wallace...just like in game 1 where he torched you guys.
Mendenhall had a mildly successful day. If I recall correctly he ran for 99 yards and a touch.

Revis isn't scared of anyone. Typical delusional opposing fan when it comes to #24.

"Revis can't shut down Andre Johnson!"

"Revis can't shut down Calvin Johnson!"

"Revis can't shut down Reggie Wayne!"

Give me a break. The guy shuts down everyone.

And if Welker or Branch [them being the ESSENCE of quick hitters] or even Hernandez couldn't beat our "slow back-up secondary people," why will rookies Brown and Sanders do so?
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Default Re: Can Ben beat the Jets' coverage?

1. Ben's escapability breaks down any coverage. I don't even think it's really possible to defend his sand-lot playmaking abilities once he gets out of the pocket.

2. Wallace, Sanders, Brown are all FAST. They can stretch the field vertically which is something the Colts' and Pats' receivers couldn't do. The Jets secondary will have to respect the deep ball and that will also open up things underneath for Hines and Heath.
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Mendenhall had a mildly successful day. If I recall correctly he ran for 99 yards and a touch.

Revis isn't scared of anyone. Typical delusional opposing fan when it comes to #24.

"Revis can't shut down Andre Johnson!"

"Revis can't shut down Calvin Johnson!"

"Revis can't shut down Reggie Wayne!"

Give me a break. The guy shuts down everyone.
It's to bad you don't have eleven revis's. You got more to worry about than just Wallace.
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