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Old 01-20-2011, 11:53 AM   #11
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HE didn't make it to the championship, the rest of his team did.

It's the kordell stewart effect. Strong defense, strong running game, shitty qb. you can still get far, until you get to an AFC Championship game, then you're ****ed.

Hell, is it unfair to compare sanchez to kordell stewart? I think so. Kordell's stats are actually better, I shouldn't disrespect him like that
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:57 AM   #12
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Ben's first 2 years

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Sanchez was competing for reps this off season?
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:10 PM   #13
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i think ben is a top 6 QB

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You're kidding with this list right? Rodgers and Rivers haven't won shit in this league.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:11 PM   #14
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sanchez made it to the afc championship 2 straight years so i dont buy into he is overrated. if you want to say he didnt get his team there then you can say the same about ben in alot of games
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Ben also had the full offseason as a starter sanchez completed and split reps.
Ben was our #3 QB going into his rookie season (behind Maddox and Batch). It wasn't until week 2 when Maddox got hurt against the Ravens did he get put in. Ben wasn't even planned to play at all that season. Sanchez was named the Jets starter from the beginning of his rookie season.

Which one got the better reps in the off season???


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Ben had hines ward and holmes to build chemistry with
Ben was drafted in 2004 - Holmes in 2006.
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Old 01-20-2011, 12:14 PM   #16
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sanchez made it to the afc championship 2 straight years so i dont buy into he is overrated. if you want to say he didnt get his team there then you can say the same about ben in alot of games
I get what you're saying but ben in his first 2 years won a LOT more games with his arm than sanchez did. The run in 2005 you can pretty much say it was all ben, they came into the playoffs throwing. Dirty sanchez leaned on the running game
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ben also had 4 years in college as a starter opposed to 1 for sanchez. Ben also had the full offseason as a starter sanchez completed and split reps. Ben had hines ward and holmes to build chemistry with, when sanchez started he had chansi stucky, j-co, brad smith, and clowney. 2 of them aren't with teh team anymore and smith sia better returner and gadget player then he is a WR. in week 4 we traded for edwards so they've only been together 1.5 years. he's only had holmes for 14 weeks? QBs take time to gel and learn. Plus i'm not comparing him to big ben. i think ben is a top 6 QB
Ben only played 3 years as starter in college and one in high school. Then he got drafted.

And what offseason are you talking about with Ben? His first one? He wasn't drafted to be the starter here, so he wasn't taking snaps as the starter. That was Maddox. Ben was actually drafted to be the #3 QB, but Batch went down in preseason and Maddox was injured during week 2. So during training camp, he was taking #3 QB snaps.

Holmes wasn't drafted until '06. And he wasn't exactly a phenom right off the bat. He had Ward, Burress, Randle El, Morey and Mays. Until this year, Ward was the only one that was still around.
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i say our defense confuses the hell out of Sanchez and gets us 2 td's on our way to an easy blowout
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ben also had 4 years in college as a starter opposed to 1 for sanchez. Ben also had the full offseason as a starter sanchez completed and split reps. Ben had hines ward and holmes to build chemistry with, when sanchez started he had chansi stucky, j-co, brad smith, and clowney. 2 of them aren't with teh team anymore and smith sia better returner and gadget player then he is a WR. in week 4 we traded for edwards so they've only been together 1.5 years. he's only had holmes for 14 weeks? QBs take time to gel and learn. Plus i'm not comparing him to big ben. i think ben is a top 6 QB

1) manning
2) Brady
3) Brees
4) Rodgers
5) Rivers
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pretty much. ben's 1st real great season came in his 4th year. he actually took a big step back in his 3rd season. but he's turned out to be great. i love how people call sanchez overrated because he isn't an elite QB even though he's in his 2nd year. most QBs suck their 1st 2-3 seasons
Ben came out early as a junior.
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Ben only played 3 years as starter in college and one in high school. Then he got drafted.

And what offseason are you talking about with Ben? His first one? He wasn't drafted to be the starter here, so he wasn't taking snaps as the starter. That was Maddox. Ben was actually drafted to be the #3 QB, but Batch went down in preseason and Maddox was injured during week 2. So during training camp, he was taking #3 QB snaps.

Holmes wasn't drafted until '06. And he wasn't exactly a phenom right off the bat. He had Ward, Burress, Randle El, Morey and Mays. Until this year, Ward was the only one that was still around.
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