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(April 15, 2006) -- This is my first of three mock drafts that I will create for NFL.com leading up to the draft at the end of the month. I will assume that there will be no pre-draft trades that could change the decision making along the way. I will combine the activity in free agency, the needs of the teams, and the grades of the players as draft boards start to take shape.
1. Houston: Reggie Bush, RB, USC Bush is a once-in-a-decade player and a matchup nightmare. He had 38 touchdowns in three years at USC. 2. New Orleans: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia He could move down but a 10-year starter is too hard to resist. The Saints traded Wayne Gandy, a starter at tackle last season, to Atlanta. 3. Tennessee: Matt Leinart, QB, USC Leinart threw for more touchdown passes in college than Vince Young and Jay Cutler combined. He also knows the Titans' offense, having played under coordinator Norm Chow at USC. 4. N.Y. Jets: Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State Williams can replace John Abraham, who was traded this offseason. He reminds new coach Eric Mangini of the Patriots' Richard Seymour and can play in either the 3-4 or 4-3. 5. Green Bay: Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon Having Ngata in the middle makes Green Bay defensive ends Aaron Kampman and Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila better. Ngata stops the run and has a rare combination of size and speed. 6. San Francisco: Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland A young quarterback like Alex Smith always needs a tight end to be effective and Davis can provide major matchup problems. 7. Oakland: Vince Young, QB, Texas Aaron Brooks signed a two-year deal with the Raiders, but owner Al Davis likes Young's upside. Randy Moss could make a perfect partner. 8. Buffalo: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State The best under tackle for the new 'Dungy' defense, Bunkley has a talent that is hard to find. 9. Detroit: Michael Huff, DB, Texas The safest pick in the draft, Huff can play either cornerback or safety. He is a leader and a Matt Millen-type player. 10. Arizona: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt Kurt Warner is old and brittle and Cutler is Brett Favre-like. He's still two years away, though. 11. St. Louis: A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State Hawk should have been gone by now but will become a cornerstone for Jim Haslett's defense. 12. Cleveland: Kamerion Wimbley, DE, Florida State Wimbley is the perfect fit for the 3-4 defense and reminds general manager Phil Savage of Peter Boulware, who Savage helped draft in Baltimore. 13. Baltimore: Winston Justice, OT, USC The Ravens can use Justice at right tackle until Jonathan Ogden retires. 14. Philadelphia: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida The Eagles failed to land Eric Moulds and released Terrell Owens, so they could use Jackson right away. 15. Denver: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State The Broncos can trade Ashley Lelie right after this pick. 16. Miami: Ernie Sims, OLB, Florida State Sims is a tackling machine and replaces Junior Seau on the Dolphins defense. 17. Minnesota: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa Greenway has a high character, the type of player that new coach Brad Childress wants on the team. 18. Dallas: Manny Lawson, LB, N.C. State Lawson is the perfect complement to DeMarcus Ware. 19. San Diego: Jimmy Williams, DB, Virginia Tech Williams can be a corner or safety and the Chargers need to replace Sammy Davis in the secondary. 20. Kansas City: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State Cromartie is a tremendous athlete and has had excellent workouts. The Chiefs really need to focus on defense in the draft. 21. New England: DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama The Patriots replace Willie McGinest with Ryans, a highly productive linebacker. 22. Denver: DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis The Broncos got the wide receiver earlier in the draft and the running back completes their first round. 23. Tampa Bay: Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College Kiwanuka can learn for a year behing Simeon Rice. He had 34 sacks in college. 24. Cincinnati: Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State Bengals center Rich Braham is 36 years old and in the last year of his contract. 25. N.Y. Giants: Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State The son of former Giants running back Rob Carpenter, he is a versatile linebacker than can fill two needs. 26. Chicago: Tye Hill, CB, Clemson This pick could change if the Bears acquire a cornerback in free agency. 27. Carolina: Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota With Stephen Davis gone, the Panthers need a back to complement DeShaun Foster. 28. Jacksonville: Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State A slow time in the 40-yard dash drops Hali, but he could be used replace Paul Spicer. 29. N.Y. Jets: Eric Winston, OT, Miami The Jets missed out on Ferguson earlier and left tackle is a top need. 30. Indianapolis: Thomas Howard, OLB, Texas-El Paso USC running back LenDale White is there but the Colts also lost linebacker David Thornton. 31. Seattle: Davin Joseph, G, Oklahoma: Joseph is an immediate replacement for Steve Hutchinson. 32. Pittsburgh: Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas: White looks tempting, but Wright answers a bigger need. Second Round The second round looks as good as half of the first round and teams can really satisfy some of their pressing needs with players capable of making an early impact. Of course, some of the players selected in the first round could easily fall to the second round and a few of the following players could be taken in the first round. 33. Houston: Marcus McNeil, OT, Auburn 34. New Orleans: Johnathan Joseph, CB, South Carolina 35. N.Y. Jets: Andrew Whitworth, OT, Louisiana State 36. Green Bay: Roger McIntosh, OLB, Miami 37. San Francisco: Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee 38. Oakland: Claude Wroten, DT, Louisiana State 39. Tennessee: Abdul Hodge, ILB, Iowa 40. Detroit: Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami 41. Arizona: Darnell Bing, S, USC 42. Buffalo: Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State 43. Cleveland: Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan 44. Baltimore: Ko Simpson, S, South Carolina 45. Philadelphia: LenDale White, RB, USC 46. St. Louis: Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA 47. Atlanta: Deuce Lutui, G, USC 48. Minnesota: Anthony Fasano, TE, Notre Dame 49. Dallas: Pat Watkins, FS, Florida State 50. San Diego: Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami 51. Minnesota: Brodie Croyle, QB, Alabama 52. New England: Brian Calhoun, RB, Wisconsin 53. Washington: Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue 54. Kansas City: Donte Whitner, SS, Ohio State 55. Cincinnati: Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia 56. N.Y. Giants: Jon Scott, OT, Texas 57. Chicago: Joe Klopfenstein, TE, Colorado 58. Carolina: Max Jean-Gilles, G, Georgia 59. Tampa Bay: Daniel Bullocks, S, Nebraska 60. Jacksonville: Joseph Addai, RB, Louisiana State 61. Denver: Dominique Byrd, TE, USC 62. Indianapolis: Jerious Norwood, RB, Mississippi State 63. Seattle: Jon Alston, OLB, Stanford 64. Pittsburgh: Maurice Stoval, WR, Notre Dame ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ some interresting things here. he has aj hawk falling to 11th. i think that would kill the browns to be 1 pick away from drafting him. possible browns trade if this plays out? i dont want to see dallas get m. lawson. maybe its wishful thinking, but id like to see him fall to the steelers, especially if porter or haggans will be salary cap casualties next year. vikings still could trade their #17 pick to the falcons for m. shaub. it really depends who is still on the board for both teams to make this suprise trade. vikings not picking greenway could give the pats their choise of demarco ryans, c. greenway or b. carpenter. im suprised he has them taking ryans. sf can go with either of the 2 remaining with the #22 pick or go cb with giants picking up arrington, there is a strong chance b carpenter could fall to the steelers. with the possibility of carpenter on the board, lendale white, and the projected pick of r. white, i think the steelers are in pretty good shape with the 1st pick. if lawson is in that mix, i want lawson. im torn between carpenter or white if lawson is off the board. i would be happy with roderique white if carpenter or lendale are gone. i think safety and wr can easilly be addressed in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. with the good possibility of the steelers taking 2 wr/ return specialists and the plethora of midround projects at this position, i can see the steelers making a move up in the 2nd round if theres somebody they really want. (carpenter 1st and l. white with a high 2nd?) that would be 2 players with potentially top 20 talent with the #32 and maybe #40 pick over all. thats probably even worth throwing in a 2nd or 3rd rounder from next season to make happen. granted we wont have any comp picks next year but with the addition of these 2 we would have hardly any needs. |
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another good kirwan article of the top 16 guys hed like playing for him. many of these seem to be intelligent "character" guys, along with extraordinary skills
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This is out of date (Denver at 15 and 22), and I start disagreeing at about pick #5.
And why does everyone have us needing help at DL when we are almost 2 deep at every position? |
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green bay is crazy to pass up hawk. sf is crazy to take a t.e. as good as he is. i couldv seen giants taking a lb but now that they got arrington? not. i see lendale going in the 1st round before the steelers pick. and some project r. white as a late 2nd early 3rd rounder. i still like his way of thinking better than kiper, especially since he does so many player interviews and focuses a little more on teams caps and the new players ramifications. |
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GMJr is the best you'll get. Hell, the guy actually had Brady rated better than a couple of the first round picks that year.
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damn these big sites, nfl.com, foxsports.com, espn.com have some of the worse mocks around, they should just quit with them cause they are all ****ing stupid, no way aj hawk slips that far down
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http://nfl.com/draft/story/9392296 interresting to note, kirwan heedes everyones remarks and put hawk back at 5. one coach who sat with v. young was trully impressed (a. shell?). 2 players who wouldve been 1st rounders failed drug tests (roderique white? kirwan dropped him out of steelers #32 down to steelers #64) then said on the radio he may even slip to 3rd round. check the link for rnd 2
(April 23, 2006) -- Soon after I released my first mock draft last week, I heard from a few NFL executives and coaches around the NFL. One front office executive told me his scouting department only gave 18 players a first-round grade. Another scout told me his team has 21 players with a first-round grade. The shortage of perceived first-round talent due to various reasons is causing a number of teams to think about moving up into the top 12-15 picks. And it is also causing some teams down in the bottom third of the draft to move down, if possible. Did the Broncos know something about this draft early enough to sell off its No. 22 pick? One personnel man told me that if all the guys with medical alerts and off-the-field baggage were clean, then this draft would have a solid first round. But the risk/reward means taking very talented players in the second round where the money is significantly less. A couple of things that rang clear to me this week that influenced my mock draft were: Vince Young has done a nice job on his visits around the league. One coach said, 'I was expecting to meet a Michael Vick kind of guy and felt more like I sat down with Donovan McNabb'. Two defensive coaches weighed in on Manny Lawson and described him as a cross between Jason Taylor and Jevon Kearse. Both of those veteran players entered the NFL under 240 pounds. Lawson has weighed anywhere from 241 at the Combine to 233 on his visits. Two players, who I will not mention, have apparently failed a drug test and will not be top choices next week. Unfortunately, one of those players is a clear-cut first-round talent. I was curious about the sudden rise in interest in quarterback Kellen Clemens this past two weeks and although he will not be a first-round selection, he may have moved into the second round on some boards. One QB coach I respect told me Clemens simply has the best combination of arm strength and mechanics in the draft. The most important thing I heard this week and typical of the feelings around the league with just days to go before the draft was, 'We have all studied these players so much that we found something wrong with everyone of them. Now we have to go back and remember the good'. I will post my final mock draft on April 28, but here's version No. 2 and there are some changes. This mock draft does not take into account any future trades, but it does consider late free-agent signings. As for rumors floating around right now: Oakland is moving up to take Vince Young at the No. 2 spot; Tennessee is internally split about Matt Leinart and Vince Young; and there going to be upwards of eight corners drafted in the first round. These are all part of the art of deception. Believe what you want to believe at this point. cont. |
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1. Houston: Reggie Bush, RB, USC
As I said last week, Bush is a once-in-a-decade player. He will create matchup problems for every team in the league. I would talk to the other top (non-QB candidates) too, but I would draft Bush with or without a pre-draft deal. 2. New Orleans: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia There is a chance the Raiders will wind up in this spot for Young, but if a deal can't be reached, the struggle is between Mario Williams and Ferguson. It's not an easy choice, but the Saints can't make a bad decision. Ferguson will line up for 10-12 years. 3. Tennessee: Matt Leinart, QB, USC If Oakland moves up, then the decision is made for the Titans. They take the QB who is left. If Young and Leinart are on the board, I hope the front office listens to the coaches and takes the guy who threw 109 touchdown passes and only 23 interceptions. Leinart reminds me more and more of Bernie Kosar, but faster. He gets the ball out of his hand the quickest and to the right spot. 4. N.Y. Jets: Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State The Jets take the player the Saints pass on and they can't be wrong except that they need a quarterback. Mario Williams will be to the Jets what Richard Seymour is to the Patriots. 5. Green Bay: A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State This week, I heard from too many 4-3 teams that they have downgraded Haloti Ngata. It is hard to pass on rare size, but the Packers break the eight-year NFL mold of only taking one outside linebacker with a top-five pick and grab Hawk because of his 368 career tackles, 37 tackles for a loss and 14? sacks. 6. San Francisco: Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland If Alex Smith doesn't get a go-to player like Vernon Davis, the pressure will mount quickly in the Bay area. Davis is a matchup problem for opponents, just like Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez. Davis changes the game and not many players in this draft have that label. 7. Oakland: Vince Young, QB, Texas The Raiders are the perfect place for Vince Young to land. He does not have to step onto the field as a rookie. His target outside is Randy Moss and the owner will make sure the team plays to his strengths. Al Davis may have to move up to get him before Saturday. 8. Buffalo: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State If **** Jauron is serious about building a defense similar to the Tony Dungy/Tampa defense, it starts up front and Bunkley is the key piece. He's not perfect. He can play too high at times, but a 4.91 40 time at 306 pounds and nine sacks as a senior are strong credentials. 9. Detroit: Michael Huff, DB, Texas The safest pick in the draft. I still believe he's more of a safety than a corner, but he has the skills to handle matchup problems like Reggie Bush and Vernon Davis and he's a team leader. 10. Arizona: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt There will be some discussions about another player or two like Winston Justice, but Kurt Warner is old enough that the Cards can't pass on Cutler. They may get a few serious calls about this spot. 11. St. Louis: Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech There are mixed reviews about Jimmy Williams. Is he a safety or a corner, was his senior year a red flag? He's big and versatile and fits a need in St. Louis. 12. Cleveland: Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon Ngata slips in the draft this week until a 3-4 team is staring right at him. Romeo Crennel was in New England when Bill Belichick was using first-round selections on defensive linemen. 13. Baltimore: Winston Justice, OT, USC You know Ray Lewis would have loved Haloti Ngata to fall to Baltimore, so blockers could not get out and block him. But it doesn't work out that way so the Ravens take Justice to start on the right side and eventually move over to the left when Jonathan Ogden retires. 14. Philadelhia: Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State Most people think this is way too high for a center, but Mangold is good enough to justify the selection. The Eagles wanted LeCharles Bentley badly in the offseason and unless they trade for Jeff Faine, this pick makes a lot of sense to me. Not one offensive line coach I have spoken to felt Mangold wasn't the second best lineman in the draft to Ferguson. 15. Denver: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida If the Broncos get Javon Walker in a pre-draft trade, then this pick changes. If they miss, then taking Jackson and trading Ashley Lelie is a strong possibility. Jackson doesn't have the production of Santonio Holmes, but he has the size and speed to be a pretty good player. 16. Miami: Manny Lawson, OLB, N.C. State The Dolphins are an emerging 3-4 team and Lawson is a fit as an OLB or a weakside end in a 4-3. He's about the same size as Jason Taylor coming out of college, but even a better athlete. Lawson was a 50-foot triple jumper in high school as well as 25-foot long jumper. He had 17 sacks at N.C. State. 17. Minnesota: Ernie Sims, LB, Florida State The perfect 4-3 weakside linebacker. He's fast, can blitz and should be in on close to 100 tackles a season when he earns a starting job. 18. Dallas: Kamerion Wimbley, OLB/DE, Florida State When Bill Parcells built the great N.Y. Giants defense, he drafted Carl Banks the year after Lawrence Taylor. With DeMarcus Ware on one side, it's time for the other piece. Signing Marcus Coleman to play safety takes the pressure off a safety at this pick. 19. San Diego: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State The best corner at Florida State since Deion Sanders is a strong statement, especially for a guy who has been injured and rarely played. His personal workouts have been excellent and the Chargers need an elite corner. 20. Kansas City: Tamba Hali, DE Penn State Throw out his disappointing 40 time (4.8), Hali has an explosive first step and a motor that doesn't quit. He plays much faster than his recorded speed and he makes plays. In three years, he had 35 tackles for a losses and 14 sacks. 21. New England: Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State Carpenter has been moving up the draft boards in the past two weeks because he is versatile, big, and smart --the three things Bill Belichick loves on his team. 22. San Francisco: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa Some scouts describe Greenway as a safety playing linebacker and think he is dropping into the second round. The 269 tackles, 18 tackles for a losses, five sacks, eight passes defended and four interceptions sounds like he's a real good football player to me. Mike Nolan needs some OLBs for his 3-4 defense. 23. Tampa Bay: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State Too good to pass up if Holmes drops to the Bucs. Here's a guy who ran 46 seconds in the 400-meters in high school, high jumped 6-foot-10 and caught 140 balls at a 16.3 average and scored 25 times. 24. Cincinnati: Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA Surprised? I am too a bit, but the run on outside linebackers puts Lewis' grade in line to be selected. He has some flaws in his game, but the Bengals need a pass catching tight end and 120 receptions and 20 college touchdowns is a good place to start. 25. N.Y. Giants: Eric Winston, T, Miami The signings of LaVar Arrington and Brandon Short last week changes the direction this team needs to go. By the time the Giants select again at No. 56, the quality tackles will be gone. 26. Chicago: Ty Hill, CB, Clemson Most teams playing the Cover-Two scheme want bigger corners than Ty Hill, but this guy can flat out run. He showed an ability to close on receivers at the Senior Bowl and his 41-inch vertical jump will help him go up for the ball against the bigger receivers. There are other corners available and Chicago could go with one of them, but I think most coaches are trying to play more man coverages and Hill gives Lovie Smith that flexibility. 27. Carolina: Laurence Moroney, RB, Minnesota The run on running backs starts right here and Maroney has 300 less carries on his resume than DeAngelo Williams, the other top back. That was the logic Bill Polian used when he selected Edgerrin James over Ricky Williams. 28. Jacksonville: Mathais Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College Some people have Kiwanuka out of the first round and by the next mock draft I might too. For now, I see a guy with 34 sacks in college and capable of being a situational rusher until he learns to disengage from blockers. 29. N.Y. Jets: DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis Curtis Martin is nearing the end of his career and Williams has a big heart, and lots of credentials -- 69 rushes for 6,026 yards, 55 touchdowns -- on a team where the opponents always knew to stop Williams first. 30. Indianapolis: Demeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama Sure the Colts lost Edgerrin James in free agency and he has to be replaced, but they also lost David Thornton. The Colts defense can't go backward now and Ryans is a solid football player. Some coaches believe he has slipped to the second round. If the Colts feel that way, they can always draft Thomas Howard. 31. Seattle: Donte Whitner, S, Ohio State Last week, I felt the Seahawks would take offensive guard Davin Joseph here, but two line coaches convinced me he spends too much time in a two-point stance. Whitner is at a need position and he ran 4.38 at his Pro Day. Seattle takes a guard in the second round. 32. Pittsburgh: LenDale White, RB, USC I could have gone in 10 different directions with this pick and I am not convinced the Steelers believe White is a 'Steeler' type player. But if his hamstring tear is less severe than first reported, this has a chance of happening. Pittsburgh will also consider a safety like Ko Simpson, a defensive end like Rodrique Wright, and maybe even a receiver. 64. Pittsburgh: Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas |
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9403168
April 28, 2006) -- Well, the hay is in the barn, and ignoring the reality that there will be some draft-day trades, a couple of late-minute veteran signings, a trade or two and a late rumor to impact a draft pick, here's my last shot at a mock draft. I took into consideration all of the information I could gather, the offseason moves, the philosophy of the decision-makers at each club and, just like most teams picking, a gut instinct about what teams might do. 1. Houston: Reggie Bush, RB, USC 2. New Orleans: D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia 3. Tennessee: Matt Leinart, QB, USC 4. N.Y. Jets: Mario Williams, DE, North Carolina State 5. Green Bay: Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland 6. San Francisco: Michael Huff, DB, Texas 7. Oakland: Vince Young, QB, Texas 8. Buffalo: Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State 9. Detroit: A.J. Hawk, LB, Ohio State 10. Arizona: Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt 11. St. Louis: Jimmy Williams, CB, Virginia Tech 12. Cleveland: Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon 13. Baltimore: Winston Justice, OT, USC 14. Philadelphia: Ernie Sims, LB, Florida State 15. Denver: Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State 16. Miami: Manny Lawson, OLB/DE, North Carolina State 17. Minnesota: Bobby Carpenter, OLB, Ohio State 18. Dallas: Kamerion Wimbley, OLB, Florida State 19. San Diego: Antonio Cromartie, CB, Florida State 20. Kansas City: Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State 21. New England: Donte Whitner, DB, Ohio State 22. San Francisco: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida 23. Tampa Bay: Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State 24. Cincinnati: Tye Hill, CB, Clemson 25. N.Y. Giants: Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota 26. Chicago: Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA 27. Carolina: DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis 28. Jacksonville: Jason Allen, DB, Tennessee 29. N.Y. Jets: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa 30. Indianapolis: DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama 31. Seattle: Kelly Jennings, CB, Miami 32. Pittsburgh: Ko Simpson, DB, South Carolina Keep in mind, there are still a number of players who could go in the first round. Cornerback Johnathan Joseph (South Carolina), guard Davin Joseph (Oklahoma), defensive tackle John McCargo (N.C. State), running backs LenDale White (USC) and Joseph Addai (LSU) and defensive end Mathais Kiwanuka (Boston College) all have first-round grades on at least one draft board out there and it would not surprise me to hear their names called. As for trades on draft day, keep an eye out for New Orleans, the Jets, Detroit and the Chiefs to consider moving down, with the Ravens, Vikings, Patriots and Panthers thinking about a move up. The potential for a Javon Walker trade will reconfigure the wide receivers in the first round, and a late deal with Ty Law could stir up the cornerbacks in the draft. Finally, we have a draft with three very good quarterbacks, an elite left tackle, a franchise pass rusher, a matchup nightmare running back and tight end, a tackling machine linebacker and a safety/corner who can handle just about any situation. Saturday is going to be an NFL fan's dream. |
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