Why register with the Steelers Fever Forums?
 • Intelligent and friendly discussions.
 • It's free and it's quick. Always.
 • Enter events in the forums calendar.
 • Very user friendly software.
 • Exclusive contests and giveaways.

 Donate to Steelers Fever, Click here
 Our 2013 Goal: $400.00 - To Date: $00.00 (00.00%)
 Home | Forums | Editorials | Shop | Tickets | Downloads | Contact Pittsburgh Steelers Forum Feed Not Just Fans. Hardcore Fans.

Go Back   Steelers Fever Forums > Steelers Football > Pittsburgh Steelers


Steelers Fever Fan Shop

Doc's Sports Get FREE NFL Picks and College Football picks as well as Football Lines like live NFL Lines and updated NFL Power Rankings all at Doc's Sports Service.

Steelers Steelers - Giants Giants
August 9th, 2014, 7:30pmET

CBS
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-03-2011, 10:52 PM   #1
Atlanta Dan
Resigned
Supporter
 
Atlanta Dan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,082
Member Number: 728
Thanks: 1,844
Thanked 5,802 Times in 2,682 Posts
Default Packers and Steelers Take Sides in Concussion Debate

Imagine The New York Times running another story from the prolific Alan Schwartz on concussions on the eve of the Super Bowl - who could possibly anticipate this might have been coming?

The angle this time is the Packers are for safety while the hard-hearted Steelers players apparently are pro-concussion

Two Teams Show Divide in Debate on Safety

Aaron Rodgers sat woozily on the Green Bay Packers’ bench after a hard hit from the Detroit Lions on Dec. 12. Midway through a ghastly loss, with the Packers’ playoff hopes in the balance, the veteran receiver Donald Driver decided that Rodgers, his star quarterback, needed some encouragement.

“I went behind him and told him that this game is just a game,” Driver recalled this week. “Your life is more important than the game.”


A professional player telling another to put his long-term health ahead of the team — a once and, to some, still-heretical idea — thrilled those who are trying to temper the sport’s win-now, regret-later ideology. Neurologists nodded. Parents cheered.

As for the rebuttal in football’s continuing debate, that was gladly delivered this week by none other than the Packers’ opponent in Sunday’s Super Bowl — the Pittsburgh Steelers, whose stars stumped as football’s defiant traditionalists.


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/04/sp...ef=alanschwarz

Yet another illustration as to how the Steelers are being portrayed as the bad guys on Sunday
Atlanta Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2011, 11:01 PM   #2
tony hipchest
IRONMAN a.k.a. Tony Stark
 
tony hipchest's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Give me back my game...
Posts: 38,135
Member Number: 658
Thanks: 1,480
Thanked 6,204 Times in 2,670 Posts
Default Re: Packers and Steelers Take Sides in Concussion Debate

what bullshit!

hines is the one in the forefront asking why the league doesnt make the new "safer' helmets mandantory.

a. rogers is the one rumored to suffer a concussion while waering the new helmet and returning to the NFCC game anyways.
__________________
tony hipchest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2011, 11:06 PM   #3
4xSBChamps
Head Coach
 
4xSBChamps's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: formerly PRR milepost 322
Posts: 1,969
Gender: Male
Member Number: 1911
Thanks: 3
Thanked 32 Times in 23 Posts
Default Re: Packers and Steelers Take Sides in Concussion Debate

by game-time, the National media will run a story that Troy Polamalu, Rocky Bleier, Myron Cope and Dan Rooney orchestrated the attack on Pearl Harbor, with help from Al-Qaeda and the Klingons, just to portray them as villains
__________________
"If I could start my life all-over again, I would be a professional football-player, and you damn-well better-believe I'd be a Pittsburgh Steeler!"
4xSBChamps is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2011, 11:24 PM   #4
Atlanta Dan
Resigned
Supporter
 
Atlanta Dan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,082
Member Number: 728
Thanks: 1,844
Thanked 5,802 Times in 2,682 Posts
Default Re: Packers and Steelers Take Sides in Concussion Debate

Quote:
Originally Posted by tony hipchest View Post
what bullshit!

hines is the one in the forefront asking why the league doesnt make the new "safer' helmets mandantory.

a. rogers is the one rumored to suffer a concussion while waering the new helmet and returning to the NFCC game anyways.
Simplistic story but Schwartz sees a Pulitzer out of this issue - he has written about 125 stories for The Times on this - he has done a lot of good reporting on the league covering the head trauma problem up, but this "Steelers bad/Packers good" story line really pissed me off (although i concede I am getting my game face on as Sunday approaches)

I was going to e-mail Schwartz to give his some quotes to contradict his simplistic story but why bother

This is Hines on the hypocrisy of Goodell & friends in an article that ran this week

They're so hypocritical sometimes. They came out with these new helmets that are supposed to stop concussions. If they care so much about our safety, why don't they mandate that we wear the new ones? If they're so worried about what concussions will do to us after our careers, then guarantee our insurance for life. And if you're going to fine me for a hit, let the money go to veteran guys to help with their medical issues. To say the league really cares? They don't give a **** about concussions. And now they want to add on two extra games? Are you kidding?

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/20...?currentPage=1

The much more balanced New Yorker article on this subject that ran several weeks ago had several insightful quotes from the allegedly pro-concussion Steelers, included these comments from Troy

When I brought up the call for change with the Steelers’ Troy Polamalu, an All-Pro safety who plays with brilliant abandon, and mentioned that the sport’s popularity seemed to be unflagging, he cut me off. “Is that your opinion? That it doesn’t need to be changed?” He later added, “This game’s on the verge of getting out of hand,” and defended the refs, who, he said, were “just trying to protect it.” This from a guy who, a few weeks earlier, had complained that there was “a paranoia that is unneeded,” and that if people wanted to watch soccer they could and would.

“In the past, it was a style of ball that was three yards and a cloud of dust, so you didn’t see too many of these big hits, because there wasn’t so much space between players,” Polamalu said. “I mean, with the passing game now, you get four-wide-receiver sets, sometimes five-wide-receiver sets. You get guys coming across the middle, you get zone coverages. You know, there’s more space between these big hits, so there’s more opportunity for these big hits.”

He has had at least seven concussions. “Honestly, it hurts both players, you know, and, whenever you see those big hits, it’s not just offensive guys lying on the ground,”


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2...printable=true

And as far as the noble Packers, wasn't it amazing Rodgers was able to go back into the NFC championship game, when Peppers laid him out and the noble Mr. Driver apparently did not urge him to sit, when the stakes were making the Super Bowl - this article certainly raises the issue that something was up

Vital Signs: Conspiracy of silence over possible Rodgers concussion?


And yet for all the consciousness-raising lately about the dangers of concussions in football, hardly anybody seems to be talking about the possibility that our star quarterback suffered another one Sunday. I mean, those Fox announcers don't stop yakking, but their silence on this was deafening. Nobody on the Green Bay coaching and medical staff on the sidelines called Rodgers over for a check-up, either, at least that we could see, and there was little in the papers about the whole thing Monday.

I called Dustin Fink, an athletic trainer from central Illinois who writes theconcussionblog.com, to ask him if he noticed anything weird about Rodgers' behavior after that hit Sunday. Fink, who coaches high school football, told me he sure did. "If this had happened to one of my players on Friday night I would have pulled him off the field, just based on his gaze," Fink says. "We call it ‘the gaze' when we see somebody concussed. It's like they're looking right through you. Their eyes don't look like they're as focused."


http://host.madison.com/ct/sports/fo...cc4c03286.html

Too bad Schwartz did not write a more balanced article on a serious subject but he, or his editors, clearly had an agenda
Atlanta Dan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:49 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Shoutbox provided by vBShout v6.2.1 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.0.8 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd. Runs best on HiVelocity Hosting.
Navbar with Avatar by Motorradforum
no new posts