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Old 02-08-2011, 11:16 AM   #11
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Default Re: P-G - Steelers Coaching: Key assistants now in focus

There is nothing in Butler's contract about his being the Steelers DC in waiting; he said so during the pre-Super Bowl interviews. It appears he is interested in the Cardinals job. I would hate to lose him.
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:23 PM   #12
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Whatever see ya Butler...Lebeau will be around 5 more....I hope!
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Old 02-08-2011, 12:23 PM   #13
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Default Re: P-G - Steelers Coaching: Key assistants now in focus

Yet another complication of a potential lockout is whether assistant coaches will be paid.

ESPN ran an article last summer on this issue:

Both the Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals have awarded "coach-friendly" contracts to their staffs. Those teams would continue to pay their coaches during a lockout. The New York Giants would pay their coaches in full for the first six months of any work stoppage.

But most teams have insisted on including lockout clauses in the contracts they've given their coaches that will reduce their salaries and, in some cases, dismiss them altogether.


http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/comme...=munson/100722

Steelere were not mentioned in that article, but if the Steelers are insisting on lockout clauses in their assistants' contracts it might be a further incentive for Keith Butler to get a promotion and be assured of getting paid by Arizon this spring while complicating the hiring of replacements for any departing (voluntarily or otherwise) Steelers coaches.
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:01 PM   #14
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Mike Jurecki of XTRA Sports 910 in Phoenix reports the Cardinals have settled on Steelers defensive backs coach Ray Horton as their next defensive coordinator.

Jurecki is a credible source as he's broken Cardinals news in the past. Steelers LBs coach Keith Butler, believed to be Arizona's top choice, was denied permission to interview. While Butler is seen as the eventual successor to Dick LeBeau, Horton has made it clear that he would welcome the opportunity to run his own defense in another locale. Horton stated last week that he's comfortable with the 4-3 or the 3-4 scheme.


http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/414780...s-player_news/

Tomlin reportedly gave some thought to firing Horton after the 2009 secendary meltdown with Troy out

If someone has to go glad it was not Butler - does Whisenunt know there are 30 other teams besides the Steelers to hire from?
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:06 PM   #15
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I'll repeat the matra....we just played in our 3rd Superbowl in 6 years. Careful what you wish for...you may just get it, and then not like the change.
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Old 02-08-2011, 03:11 PM   #16
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Mike Jurecki of XTRA Sports 910 in Phoenix reports the Cardinals have settled on Steelers defensive backs coach Ray Horton as their next defensive coordinator.

Jurecki is a credible source as he's broken Cardinals news in the past. Steelers LBs coach Keith Butler, believed to be Arizona's top choice, was denied permission to interview. While Butler is seen as the eventual successor to Dick LeBeau, Horton has made it clear that he would welcome the opportunity to run his own defense in another locale. Horton stated last week that he's comfortable with the 4-3 or the 3-4 scheme.


http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/414780...s-player_news/

Tomlin reportedly gave some thought to firing Horton after the 2009 secendary meltdown with Troy out

If someone has to go glad it was not Butler - does Whisenunt know there are 30 other teams besides the Steelers to hire from?
that would make my day if true. i think it was time to move on with a new secondary coach anyway. maybe rod woodson will come in for us. LOL
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Woodson is a traitor......lol
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The wheels turn - somehow Ray Horton has become a hot coaching candidate while the Steelers have told the Cardinals that Keith Butler is not going anywhere (wonder if there is some bad blood that has developed between Whiz and the Steelers front office?)

Just minutes after a radio report surfaced in Arizona that the Cardinals were ready to hire Steelers secondary coach Ray Horton as their coordinator, there is news that Horton has a job offer with the Cowboys.

Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports Horton has left to take a position with the Cowboys, presumably under coordinator Rob Ryan. (UPDATE: La Canfora has corrected his initial report, saying Horton has an offer on the table from both the Cowboys are Cardinals.) We mentioned earlier that there were conflicting reports about the Arizona hire.

The Cardinals reportedly requested permission to speak with Horton, Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler, and Packers inside linebackers coach Winston Moss. Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic has confirmed the Steelers denied the Cardinals permission to speak with Butler.

UPDATE II: Somers says there’s “no way” Horton is going to Dallas. He’s scheduled to interview with the Cardinals on Wednesday.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...m-the-cowboys/

P-G confirms the Steelers told Whiz to go away with regard to speking to Butler and Coach Dad apparently is coming back

The Steelers have turned down a request from the Arizona Cardinals to interview linebackers coach Keith Butler for their defensive coordinator position, the Post-Gazette has learned.

The Cardinals sought permission from team president Art Rooney II today, two days after the Steelers' 31-25 loss to the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XLV. But the request was denied because Butler signed a new contract after the 2009 season with the understanding he would be the Steelers' defensive coordinator when Dick LeBeau retires, whenever that is.

Nose tackle Chris Hoke said LeBeau indicated in a team meeting today that he intends to return for the 2011 season.

With Butler out of consideration, the Cardinals are expected to interview secondary coach Ray Horton for their defensive coordinator job. Horton, who is in the final year of his two-year contract, is also believed to be a candidate for positions with the Dallas Cowboys and Oakland Raiders


http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11039/1123946-66.stm

No word on what Arians may have said in the team meeting

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I'm pretty sure there is a reason they are letting Horton go...

What has been the weakest link for 3 years running. Someone said it best, "I've thought the Secondary has been average since Tomlin's Super Bowl win..." After three years I would have to agree:

1. In three years we barely have a serviceable Nickel-back
2. Zero Development of rookies
3. Horrible game plans (before you say they don't advise or help... see Jets Defensive Coach vs. NE in the second game... adjustments)
4. Before you say talent..... see Sean Kugler or Jets Pass Defense past Cromartie/Revis... you can't name them.
5. After 2-3 years a DB should at least be able to come in and play Zone? Maybe? That is all a lot of other schemes ask and ours haven't since Cowher left.

I'm pretty sure Horton's contract was up and he's not getting renewed... next up hopefully the QB Coach...

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I'm pretty sure Horton's contract was up and he's not getting renewed... next up hopefully the QB Coach...

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