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Old 02-09-2011, 04:46 PM   #1
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I will first start out in saying I not his biggest fan and that I understand peoples frustration. However, at this point in Ben career would it be wise to go to a new system? Also, who would we get to replace him?
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Old 02-09-2011, 04:49 PM   #2
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Default Re: Question for Arians Haters

well.....we have a great QB and some other great personnel but we die on horrendous play calling. The offense can't get much worse. No reason with the all-star type personnel we have (Mendenhall, Wallace, Miller, Ben, etc) that we can't be putting up more points.
What are we going to do? Go from scoring 17 ponts a game to 7?

I think its a move Tomlin has to really consider.
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Old 02-09-2011, 04:53 PM   #3
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Hire nobody and let Ben run his own "Peyton Manning" offense.

I'm serious.
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:17 PM   #4
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I don't consider myself a 'hater' of anybody from the Organization

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I will first start out in saying I not his biggest fan and that I understand peoples frustration. However, at this point in Ben career would it be wise to go to a new system? Also, who would we get to replace him?
'IF' we are going to make a change, let's hope any possible replacement will realize if you are shoving the football down your opponent's throat via the run... just had a 6-play / all-run 50-yard drive that resulted in a TD, cutting a deficit to 21-17 midway through the 3rd quarter... and your OL (though thought to be depleted by injury) is firing-out & blowing the defenders off the line-of-scrimmage... defenders who have shown neither the ability nor the desire to stop the running game and force us to throw...

... this isn't the time to be twice-as-cute as you need to be:
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:41 PM   #5
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Default Re: Question for Arians Haters

Phantom: right on, give Ben more flexibility to change things up, some no huddles etc.

What no huddles? thats unheard of, lol
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Old 02-09-2011, 05:43 PM   #6
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'IF' we are going to make a change, let's hope any possible replacement will realize if you are shoving the football down your opponent's throat via the run... just had a 6-play / all-run 50-yard drive that resulted in a TD, cutting a deficit to 21-17 midway through the 3rd quarter... and your OL (though thought to be depleted by injury) is firing-out & blowing the defenders off the line-of-scrimmage... defenders who have shown neither the ability nor the desire to stop the running game and force us to throw...

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They tried, Mendy fumbled on 1st down.
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I do not hate Arians but here is my opinion of him. If we can get someone better, go for it. I would rate him as average, he is better than some people think. We could do a lot worse at OC than Arians. I think he is average.

What people are not taking into account is that he has a QB that holds on to the ball too long and who can not make quick reads like a Brady, Manning, Rogers or other top QBs.

I am not defending Arians, but all he can do is design and call the plays. From what I have seen, he is average. What I did not like was his "we do not attack people" comment. THat was not good. But, until we find someone better, might as well stay with him.
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i don't think we need to change 'the system' much at all. what we need is a new PHILOSOPHY.

i don't think we should change the playbook drastically, but by god, I want someone in charge who will make gametime adjustments and attack weaknesses according to what the defense is giving us. THIS is what needs to change. Arians time and time again can't seem to get over his own ego and won't change, and I think that's part of the problem. He needs to go.

and I disagree with he's average. he's below average. We have a lot of talent on offense. a HOF quarterback and a pro bowl caliber running back. How we are in the middle of the pack in total offense considering the talent we have, is inexcusable.
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They tried, Mendy fumbled on 1st down.
It was second down. Regardless, Ben threw 2 picks and it didn't stop him from calling pass after pass.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:38 PM   #10
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I'm not sure if it's Arians or just the whole "Steelers Football" mythos.

To me, the team seems as if part of it wants to be the old run oriented "power" football team and the other part wants to be a more modern, West Coast style pass-first offense.

I honestly think that if Arians or whoever ends up being the OC would just sit down a watch a season's worth of New England game film, they'd understand what we could really be.

Say what you will about Belichick, but he doesn't cast himself or his team into any mold and he adapts his entire style of play --- not just his play calling --- to whatever team he's facing. What I mean is that if he's facing a team with a weak pass defense, he doesn't just call more pass plays but he designs specific TYPES of pass plays to exploit specific weaknesses and even specific packages and personnel. It's a whole philosophy designed for just that one team.

Then on another Sunday, he'll show up with a completely redesigned offense and call 45 running plays --- again designed specifically for a particular opponent.

It's very much a Chameleon approach.

I think what I'm trying to say is that we need to become more versatile and more specialized and design offenses not just for the season or for an image, but for each game; a specialized "designer" approach, if you will.

I think the era of team identity based on one style or another is gone and now it's more about dialing in very specific approaches to each type of team we meet sort of like the way there are "Apps" for everything today. I don't know if Arians or even Tomlin would go for something like that, but it works pretty good for Belichick more often than not and whether you like him or hate him, you have to admire his success.
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