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Old 05-10-2006, 02:23 AM   #21
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I would love grimm too. he would be a perfect head coach. He's got fire. Obviously cowher will be around for awhile and obviously there wont be as many coaching openings this year. But I could see parcells and holmgren quiting after this year. Shotenheimer getting fired and maybe the raven might fire billick if they have another shit year. Couldnt you all see grimm coaching dallas?
Russ Grimm hasn't shown me or anyone else anything that would indicate that he would be a perfect head coach or for that matter even a good head coach. He's got fire? A lot of former players have "fire" but they sure as h e l l wouldn't be a great head coach. Come on people! Once again some of you are looking at this through your Steelers colored glasses. We've lost far better assistant coaches to other NFL teams and most of them have not and will not even be labeled as a good head coach.

If you could put the entire Steelers organization into a pan and boil it down to a solid substance, you would find that the substance would consist of the Rooney's and Bill Cowher. They make assistant coaches and players look better than what they actually are.
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Old 05-10-2006, 02:52 AM   #22
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Russ Grimm hasn't shown me or anyone else anything that would indicate that he would be a perfect head coach or for that matter even a good head coach. He's got fire? A lot of former players have "fire" but they sure as h e l l wouldn't be a great head coach. Come on people! Once again some of you are looking at this through your Steelers colored glasses. We've lost far better assistant coaches to other NFL teams and most of them have not and will not even be labeled as a good head coach.

If you could put the entire Steelers organization into a pan and boil it down to a solid substance, you would find that the substance would consist of the Rooney's and Bill Cowher. They make assistant coaches and players look better than what they actually are.
and did you even know who cowher was before he took the job?????????
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Old 05-10-2006, 04:02 AM   #23
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and did you even know who cowher was before he took the job?????????
No I did not and there's plenty of other assistant coaches around the NFL that I don't know and most of them will not become head coaches. I'll add this fact as well, many "unknown"- assistant coaches have been given the opportunity to become head coaches and a lot of them have failed miserably. Russ Grimm has had a few interviews but no takers. If he's not good enough to coach a lousy team like the Lions then he's certainly not good enough to coach the Steelers. He's not what I would classify as head coach material.

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Old 05-10-2006, 04:24 AM   #24
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Its way to early to be answering this question but when the day comes that Cowher steps down with his numerous Super Bowl rings and AFCN Titles( EAT THAT BUNGLES FANS) I say the Steelers will go outside the organization to get a new head coach or someone that Cowher believes can follow in his foot steps.....
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2 guys coaching right now that people overlook are Nick Saban and Herman Edwards.
I keep telling people in KC they dont realize what a coaching upgrade they just got.
Vermeil lost all interest in defense after 1999. Edwards took the JETS to three playoffs.

Saban is a future coaching great. a Belichick protege, look what hed did at LSU and in one year with the Dolphins.
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Here are a few thoughts on the HC situation in Pittsburgh:
- Bill Cowher will NOT coach another NFL football team
- It is possible that he could retire sooner than many think
- Dont read too much into the Whiz turning down Oakland cause that is a coaches graveyard... nobody in their right mind wants to work under Al Davis as a HC.... PERIOD.... you know who goes to Oakland to be a HC????? Desperate people hanging on at the end of their career or a guy who just wants an opportunity to gety his foot in the HC'ing door
- Russ Grimm and Whiz give us two "in house" candidates to replace Billy
- **** L. will stay as Steelers D coordinator for a long while... HC'ing during the old days in Cincy are enough to make anyone swear off coaching forever...HA HA
- All of the NC house talk is a bit unsettling but I trust that the Steelers FO will be the first informed by Cowher if he indeed plans on retiring sooner than expected... in fact they have probably had a conversation or two about it since the Super Bowl. You dont become the NFL's most stable franchise without a little planning.
- I think there is a good possibility that we could lose one of those two (Whiz or Grimm) within a season or two
- I dont think we will lose both of them... the rooneys wouldnt let that happen... especially when you consider what some other franchises are doing by generously paying assistants to keep them within their programs.

If I were Whiz or Grimm I wouldnt move a muscle... think about it... HC in Pittsburgh right now means the Rooney's above you, a borderline HOFer at D coordinator, a talented and deep roster led by the youngest QB in history to win a super bowl & the best fans in the world...... but lets just hope that Cowher realizes this and stays for another 15 years.
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Old 05-10-2006, 08:24 AM   #27
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I agree with that point that we dont know how long he could be around. and that it could be sooner then we think. look how long this guys been a head coach maybe he could retire within the next couple years to spend time with his family. theres more to life then the gridiron you know
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2 guys coaching right now that people overlook are Nick Saban and Herman Edwards.
I keep telling people in KC they dont realize what a coaching upgrade they just got.
Vermeil lost all interest in defense after 1999. Edwards took the JETS to three playoffs.

Saban is a future coaching great. a Belichick protege, look what hed did at LSU and in one year with the Dolphins.
I`m not sold on Saban yet. But I agree that Edwards is a great coach
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Who was it that said "Offense makes highlight videos, Defense wins championships"?

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Thats what I`m talking about! Defense, glad you agreed
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There is. I've been there. It's not near as much fun. Haha.

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Thats what I`m talking about! Defense, glad you agreed
The Steel Curtain won us four in the 70s and this year it did it again. We all know the players/numbers on our defense that shut down offenses from bein able to move (Indy comes to mind).

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