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Old 02-24-2011, 07:48 PM   #11
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Default Re: "Cam Newton is the black Ben Roethlisberger."

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I suppose this analogy can work in a variety of ways

Scout: Cam Newton is the next Ben Roethlisberger

Actually, this is exactly what an African-American NFL scout stated about Cam Newton:

"Cam Newton is the black Ben Roethlisberger."

This is what he meant and his comparison had nothing to do with off-the-field. He meant strictly on it.

When looking at Newton now and Roethlisberger coming out of college the parallels are indeed interesting. Newton is far more decorated with a Heisman and national championship than Roethlisberger was coming out of Miami University but both men had size and big arms. Both were gritty. Both ran well. Both escaped sacks. Both won a lot of games.

Newton has a great deal to prove. He's done nothing on the NFL level but the Roethlisberger comparison is actually legitimate strictly in terms of deciphering who Newton best resembles in the pros now.

The scout was also making another type of statement with the comparison. There are plenty of personnel men who have expressed privately to me how they tire of the black quarterback to black quarterback comparisons when they aren't relevant. It's beyond stupid, for example, to compare Newton to Mike Vick. That's like comparing a Great Dane to a Jack Russell.

Maybe I shouldn't use dog analogies.

But you get the point.

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Comparing Cam Newton to Ben actually reinforces the stereotype, which my idol Steve Young was working hard on Super Bowl Sunday, that Roethlisberger is an unpolished QB who does not put in the work at practice or in reviewing film (like Brady, P. Manning, Brees and the newly sainted Aaron Rogers) but just gets by on his physical skills.

So I guess Cam Newton should be offended he is being compared to someone who is regarded as a talented but nevertheless dumb and lazy QB such as Roethlisberger.
That is funny Ben is a player and in a some years Cam Newton will be forgotten while Ben is going for another bowl...........that was so well...................
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Old 02-24-2011, 07:53 PM   #12
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That is funny Ben is a player and in a some years Cam Newton will be forgotten while Ben is going for another bowl...........that was so well...................
Awesome, Ben got to get a couple more rings, quick. Some of our stars are getting old, Troy,Clarke,Farrior, Hoke,Hampton,Smith, Keisel, and even harrison, arent young
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Old 02-26-2011, 05:15 PM   #13
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Default Re: "Cam Newton is the black Ben Roethlisberger."

No matter what you say....

.if another race cannot say it.............
then it is the wrong thing to say......

PERIOD


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Old 02-26-2011, 05:37 PM   #14
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Default Re: "Cam Newton is the black Ben Roethlisberger."

Again, I don't think anybody means he'll be a top 5 QB and win multiple Super Bowls by saying this, I don't think they are comparing him to Ben in terms of the success he will have in the NFL. In terms of his physical build and size, his playing style outside the pocket and physicality, and his clutchness and success in college (even if only one year of it), he IS the "black Ben Roethlisberger," or at least the black Ben Roethlisberger of college football. Only difference is he has a little less accuracy (still a huge arm and deep ball though) and little more speed and running skill.
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Cam Newton is more of a black Aaron Rodgers or a better Vince Young (don't know how much better)
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Seems to me Limbaugh got bounced from ESPN years ago for bringing race into the QB conversation....I agree the double standard is laughable.
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Why would anyone want to draft his guy as their QB of the future? What he has said in the past is proof enough that he is a nut job.
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Yea wasn't Demarcus Russel the new, bigger, better black Ben?
How did he do?
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Why would anyone want to draft his guy as their QB of the future? What he has said in the past is proof enough that he is a nut job.
"Nut job" may be putting it on a little thick. But the quote - recently - that
he doesn't want to just be the best QB but an "icon" left me thinking no
way I touch this kid if I were a GM. That made LeBron James self-absorbed
comments seem shy by comparison.

Kid is coming across way too ****y way too soon. Think what you want
(to a degree) but shut your stink hole until you have done some things
on the field, and, preferably, until you are freaking retired, if you have
any brains at all.
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"Nut job" may be putting it on a little thick. But the quote - recently - that
he doesn't want to just be the best QB but an "icon" left me thinking no
way I touch this kid if I were a GM. That made LeBron James self-absorbed
comments seem shy by comparison.

Kid is coming across way too ****y way too soon. Think what you want
(to a degree) but shut your stink hole until you have done some things
on the field, and, preferably, until you are freaking retired, if you have
any brains at all.
John Elway and Eli Manning said they would not play for certain teams and were able to dictate that decision, so Newton is not the first college QB to pack a lot of attitude coming into the NFL and at least has not played that card yet

Unfortunately these players develop a sense of entitlement starting with the ridiculous emphasis (at least in SEC country) on where high school kids say they are going to play minor league (aka "college") football before they are eligible to get paid legally

Newton is a gamble but drafting a QB in the first round always is (e.g. - Ryan Leaf/Jeff George)
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