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Old 02-26-2011, 10:53 PM   #21
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Default Re: Harris: Taylor loss could cripple Steelers

I like Butler too!Dam this is scary!Unless we can pull the miracle and get N.A......
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Old 02-27-2011, 05:38 AM   #22
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Default Re: Harris: Taylor loss could cripple Steelers

i cant see how someone can think we dont need Taylor. if you think he is just a little above average then what do you consider Mcfadden and the rest of our CB's?

taylor isnt the best corner in the NFL but he is by far the best on our team. he always lines up against the teams top WR and more times then not does a great job. Taylor fits perfectly into our defense and i dont want to even imagine what opposing QB's will do to our defense without him.

yes we can probably replace him in the draft but it wont happen this year. no CB that we draft will come in and play as well as Ike his 1st year so that leaves for a rough 2011 season if we lose him

we all complained thru the year about how the top QB's tore our defense up. just imagine how much worse it would be without Ike.

personally i would love to keep him then draft a CB in the 1st or 2nd round this year. the rookie can play nickel or dime until he learns the system then take Mcfaddens place opposite Ike and boom, we can stop the pass again.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:04 AM   #23
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Crezdon Butler is the best Steelers corner.
What evidence is there for such an assertion? NONE.
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Old 02-27-2011, 11:12 AM   #24
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i never said rookie CB's cant start. I said they wont start for DL's defense.
It wasn't stated that specifically but if you say so.
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i also said that there was no way we would pick a CB at the end of the 1st round that would instantly play as well as Ike.
Instantly, like in the first day of camp? OK. Instantly, like by Sept.?
Possibly. There are a few corners with a little more physical skills
than Ike that will be there at 1-31. Most need some reps before
they get solid, but I am not going to assume out of X-thousand
collage CBs, that you can't find one who can get it done with the
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as for McCourtney, he was picked 27th which was late and hopefully we get as lucky as the Pats and find a gem like him but it dosnt happen often.
It happens more often with Pgh than it does with most of the rest
of the league (Finding a player in late first round.)

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Haden had a great year like you said but he was picked 7 overall and we dont pick till 31st
True. But it's the NFL draft. Just because Haden was taken with the 7th
doesn't mean we can't find a player as good at 1-31. It certainly is in the realm
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all im saying is its doubtful the steelers will play a rookie his 1st year and losing Ike will really hurt. everyone here seems to think Butler is our best corner on our team and he only dressed 3 games last season
We really aren't disagreeing that much. And it's moot b/c they are
re-signing Ike. I am just saying I am not buying into Harris' "sky is
falling" fear mongering, even if we lost Ike, that is all.

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What evidence is there for such an assertion? NONE.
i hear he's shutting our wr's down in practice. probably will get a shot to take mcfadden's job this offseason after learning the defense for a year

as a rookie he was a little smallish and probably would have to put on some weight to be an every down starter. being 180 lbs at 6'0 isn't a really solid frame, dude has to hit the weights or he'll get hurt when he tries to tackle a running back

i believe butler will be a solid starter in the future and may even replace b-mac this year.
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Okay, I REALLY hope Crezdon Butler pans out now...I wanna see more of this guy



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Seems like our best bet is to sign him to a 2 year deal for top dollar and draft a CB in this draft to replace him by then. I've seen where New Orleans, Houston, and some other teams would be willing to pay 5-6 years 50-60 million. Hopefully we can talk him into making a couple more title runs while he's in his prime and then we can part ways. Without Ike, we will get murdered in the passing game, even worse than we already do lol. We would have to play 2 deep all game and that would take away from Troy's playmaking abilities. At least Ike can lock up one WR and let Troy do more roaming with Clark playing over the top of Gay or McFadden.

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Ok, I'm just gonna throw this out there...last few years...

we can't survive without Joey Porter!
we can't survive without Plaxico Burress!
we can't survive without Santonio Holmes!
we can't survive without Alan Faneca!

just saying...this front office has a pretty good record of when it lets guys go.

if Ike goes, he goes. I like the guy, even though he can't catch...but is he so valuable that I go into the new season believing we have no chance at winning it all? Nope.
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Ok, I'm just gonna throw this out there...last few years...

we can't survive without Joey Porter!
we can't survive without Plaxico Burress!
we can't survive without Santonio Holmes!
we can't survive without Alan Faneca!

just saying...this front office has a pretty good record of when it lets guys go.

if Ike goes, he goes. I like the guy, even though he can't catch...but is he so valuable that I go into the new season believing we have no chance at winning it all? Nope.
Wait, just to be clear, you would be perfectly fine with Gay and Mcfadden starting at CB next year?
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