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Old 05-17-2006, 01:36 AM   #1
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I was looking at an old thread just now about where the Patriots would be without Tom Brady. I think we got our answer against Denver. Despite all the mistakes made in that game by the Patriots, and giving Denver their due, if Brady had been his usual playoff self, we would have won.

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Old 05-17-2006, 03:12 AM   #2
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Being without Brady would definitely cause the Patriots problems - he is the best QB in the NFL by some distance so it makes sense that his loss would be strongly felt.

For large parts of the Denver game he was throwing well and racking up yardage at will - but it is my opinion that the turnovers on offense (the fumbles) that preceded his INT to Champ Bailey forced him to try and make throws that werent really there.

I also have to query the fitness of his throwing shoulder - I seen Brady throw numerous 'quick pitches' to Givens on the LOS toward the end of the season that bounced in front of the reciever - he is normally very accurate with the quick timing patterns.

This year Pittsburgh found a way to raise their game to help their struggling QB in the SB - the Pats 'O' found a way to make Brady's job unmanageable.

Talking of the Denver game - I dont think we should forget just how impressive the Pats D, and in particular its run D, had been that night - they shut down the NFL's best running team almost totally.

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Talking of the Denver game - I dont think we should forget just how impressive the Pats D, and in particular its run D, had been that night - they shut down the NFL's best running team almost totally.

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I agree completely. That's one of the reasons I say had Brady not missed a couple of big plays we would have won. Not that the fumbles weren't devastating, they were. But Brady, normally, our defense that day, and our game plan that day, were all good enough to overcome even that many fumbles.

I saw those short passes into the ground from TB also and I agree it usually means his shoulder is bothering him. And I worry about it all the time. Every year.
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I agree completely. That's one of the reasons I say had Brady not missed a couple of big plays we would have won. Not that the fumbles weren't devastating, they were. But Brady, normally, our defense that day, and our game plan that day, were all good enough to overcome even that many fumbles.

I saw those short passes into the ground from TB also and I agree it usually means his shoulder is bothering him. And I worry about it all the time. Every year.
his shoulder is mush. if cassell were to come in and lead the pats to the superbowl would belichick trade brady to the jets or bills, or do you think he'll try to move him out of the division?
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What would the Patriots be without Brady? The Ravens.
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his shoulder is mush. if cassell were to come in and lead the pats to the superbowl would belichick trade brady to the jets or bills, or do you think he'll try to move him out of the division?
I think he would trade him to the Steelers.

I know it was suggested to 'Big' Ben that he use Bettis as a role model - but I think following his diet aswell may backfire - that chin strap looks awfully tight.

Maybe Ben could move to NT as a run stopper in the 3-4 leaving a space for Brady at QB.

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I was looking at an old thread just now about where the Patriots would be without Tom Brady. I think we got our answer against Denver. Despite all the mistakes made in that game by the Patriots, and giving Denver their due, if Brady had been his usual playoff self, we would have won.

Live by the QB, die by the QB.
Why even ask this question? I think its clear if the Pats did indeed lose a 3time Super Bowl Champion QB that they would be in major trouble. I hate Brady but I give the guy his just due. He is the best QB in the NFL without a doubt.
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"I think he would trade him to the Steelers.

I know it was suggested to 'Big' Ben that he use Bettis as a role model - but I think following his diet aswell may backfire - that chin strap looks awfully tight.

Maybe Ben could move to NT as a run stopper in the 3-4 leaving a space for Brady at QB."



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Why even ask this question? I think its clear if the Pats did indeed lose a 3time Super Bowl Champion QB that they would be in major trouble. I hate Brady but I give the guy his just due. He is the best QB in the NFL without a doubt.
Why ask the question? Just a way to think about the coming season by finishing off last year in my mind.
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Being without Brady would definitely cause the Patriots problems - he is the best QB in the NFL by some distance



Yes he is a damn good QB but this is about a homer comment if I ever read one. I disagree that Brady is a clear number one. IF in fact he is the best he isn't leading by a wide margin, more like a slim one.
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