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Old 05-11-2005, 11:02 PM   #11
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You beat yourselves? LOL. You were beat, period.
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Old 05-12-2005, 12:09 AM   #12
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turnovers, fumbles, missed opportunities.. yes we beat ourselves.. plain and simple!
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Old 05-12-2005, 04:04 AM   #13
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Ben will be fine as far as never had a chance, he kicked some Pats ass earleir in the season, I didn`t here nobody talking Pats smack back then?
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Old 05-12-2005, 08:44 AM   #14
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I've a lot more to say, but I don't want to break the forum rules. Should this be in the blast furnace?

Beat yourselves? Earlier in the season? Come on.
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I don`t know if I can say we beat ourselves? For Cowhers sake I hope we didn`t. The Pats were the defending world champs, and Belichek must have come up with some schemes on defense to confuse Ben. Now that Ben has a year, and an entire playbook, I think we`ll be fine. We weren`t clicking on all cylinders that day, thats for sure, but the Pats were part of the problem. You really can`t take nothing away from them, they`ve won the last 3 of 4. I believe this year will be different, a Ring for Us.

It was nice kicking the crap out of the Pats earlier in the season. HW doesn`t want to acknowledge that game. Because it didn`t mean anything, wrong it did mean that he didn`t get to see the Pats at home in the Playoffs
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"wrong it did mean that he didn`t get to see the Pats at home in the Playoffs"

Very true, and I admit, you beat us. We didn't show up to lose I can guarantee you that.

As for defensive schemes? I think you know how we play defense. We don't have all those converted defensive ends playing LB for us for the hell of it.

Now see, Cleve is an honest man. He's going to be a naked honest man come next Jan., but he'll still be honest.
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When you commit multiple turnovers and allow big special teams plays, you beat urself! nobody can deny that. Now was that the only reason we lost, no, Im man enough to admit the pats played a better game, and they are a superb team, winning 3-4 superbowls, I'd be foolish to not admit that.. BUT, it wasnt all the pats that one that game this past January, they had some help from our turnovers and misque's.
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Look, when you get into the playoffs you can't make mistakes. That's part of the deal. The competition is too good. Your team just wasn't ready, and we were.

The key play? First half, fourth and one, you go for it, we stuff ya. End of game. Why? In the second half you got forth and one in our red zone and instead of going for it, you kick a field goal. That's intimidation at work.
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Cowher will go on 4th and 1 better than 80 % of the time in that situation, because normally, we win those battles,.. All the bus has to do is run up and fall down and he's got the first down, but penetration killed us. Bill tried to make a statement and fire up the team, unfortunately it didnt work.

It was a learning experience for Ben, and one that will be invaluable come this year and in the future.
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We knew going into the game that we couldn't allow you to make that statement. Once the bus starts rolling over you on forth and short, forget it, you're in trouble. But if you can take that away, and force you out of your game, then you're playing a Steeler team that can be beat.

You were about one player better then us last year. However, Brady makes up for that. It looks like you might be 2 players better then us this year, and have an improved QB. Can Brady make up for that? We'll see.
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