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Old 05-26-2006, 04:26 PM   #1
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Default Five Players in the Wrong Situation From the '06 Draft

1. Vernon Davis, TE, San Francisco: I love Davis. I think he could do the kinds of things we've gotten accustomed to seeing from San Diego's Antonio Gates. I just don't see that happening as long as Alex Smith is throwing the football for the 49ers. I realize Smith is only in his second season, but he didn't do anything in his first year to make me think he's due for rapid development. Smith has more growing pains to go through, and as long as he struggles, so will Davis.

2. Tamba Hali, DE, Kansas City: For all the glowing reports on Hali's work ethic and production at Penn State, he's still going to a team that has had horrible luck with defensive linemen over the last five years. They can't get anything out of their top picks (Ryan Sims, a 2002 first-rounder, has been a bust, and Junior Siavii, a 2004 first-rounder, is close to sharing that label), and the free agents they've brought in have struggled too. Only one player, 2004 fourth-rounder Jared Allen, has exceeded expectations. There's just not enough talent to give Hali the help he needs to be effective.

3. Michael Huff, SS, Oakland: I hate to see great talents wind up in dysfunctional organizations. Unfortunately for Huff, the Raiders have become a place where even the most gifted of young players can underachieve. It has something to do with the freedom they get from owner Al Davis, who has a way of letting his favorite players do whatever they want while the head coach, Art Shell in this case, loses all credibility. It happened with Charles Woodson. It happened with Darrell Russell. And those are the people who could actually play. I'm hoping Huff is mentally strong enough to deal with an environment filled with very few characters worth following.

4. Santonio Holmes, WR, Pittsburgh: This is no knock on the organization, because it did win the Super Bowl last year. It is, however, a reminder that the Steelers haven't fared well recently with receivers taken in the first round. Plaxico Burress struggled with inconsistency. Troy Edwards never did anything. Holmes may be more willing to accept the realities of playing in the Steel City -- more blocking and less pass-catching opportunities than first-round receivers are used to -- but he'll still have to understand that Hines Ward is the man in that system.

5. Anthony Fasano, TE, Dallas: If Fasano wants to be the next tight end to become a pass-catching star in the league, he's in the wrong place. If he doesn't mind being a second tight end on a team that already has a young, Pro Bowl-caliber player at the position, he'll be just fine. I like the kid. I just don't think he'll get fully utilized by the Cowboys as long as Jason Witten is on the roster.



http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ft.luck/1.html


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Old 05-26-2006, 04:32 PM   #2
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Default Re: Five Players in the Wrong Situation From the '06 Draft

He also fails to mention the Steelers drafting ability in the first round, shall we take a look back at some of their first round picks in recent history?

Heath Miller
Ben Roethlisberger
Troy Polamalu
Kendall Simmons
Casey Hampton
Plaxico Burress
Alan Faneca
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Old 05-26-2006, 04:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Five Players in the Wrong Situation From the '06 Draft

if you look at it, this is more a compliment of santonios talents than it is a knock on him. the writer thinks he is too good to go to a team that already has an established #1 wr and doesnt pass the ball that often. if santonio went to the pats or k.c. he would be gushing all over the pick.

it IS a knock on the organization and their style of ball.

actually the whole article is kinda bunk. fasano can contribute and flourish (although he wont catch 100 balls like t. gonzales - neither will h. miller) and k.c.'s past drafts have no bearing on how t. hali will play.

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Old 05-26-2006, 05:47 PM   #4
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Ok yes the Steelers do run the ball most of the time. We will always be a running team. But with all the recent additions through the draft. I'm thinking Cowher will open it more and more each year. Plus the Steelers usually have a very balanced offense in games. They get the lead and grind it out in the second half.

True the Steelers have had mixed results picking recievers in the first round. Troy Edwards after his rookie year was a complete bust. Plax had moments when he looked to be the next big thing. Then he would disappear for at times and always had some mental break downs. But I have no worries about Santonio Holmes. He seems very excited to be a Steeler and has the willingness to block. True he might get fustrated at times when he won't get the ball at times. But I want a reciever to want to catch the football. But I 'm sure Holmes won't have out bursts to hurt the teams chemistry.
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I think we showed in the playoffs....go ahead and pull up your safeties...play 8 in the box...and we will burn you...

With the additions of Holmes and Reid...and Ben's ongoing development....defenses are gonna be in deep trouble
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Point #2 and #4 are idiotic. Because KC has had bad luck with picks in the past or the Steelers had some issues with WR's in the past they shouldnt pick them??

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Steelers have never had a QB like Big Ben since TB. Whether Cowher or the Steelers org want to believe it, this offense either this year or 2007, it will be Big Ben's offense. They will run the offense according to his abilities. I think Cowher has showed twice in his career that he is willing to give the Qb free reign on passing if need be. He did it with O'donnel in 95 when we ran multiple 5 wides and he did it in 2003 with Maddox. Both yeilded different results but thats because the talent in 95 was alot better then in 2003.

We also saw it a little in the Playoffs. I think Cowher wouldnt have as much success as he has had, if he werent able to bend his philosphy a little to cater to the talent. It will be very interesting to see this year how Big Ben plays. Im personally looking for a Carson Palmer 2005 performance. Rudi Johnson was a 1400 back and Carson was able to do his thing. If we get that kind of performance from our offense, I dont see how the hell we are not going all the way.....
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Im personally looking for a Carson Palmer 2005 performance. Rudi Johnson was a 1400 back and Carson was able to do his thing. If we get that kind of performance from our offense, I dont see how the hell we are not going all the way.....
Don't you have to throw the ball to get that kind of production? To say Ben is going to bust out with 32 TD's, a rating of 100+ and lead the league in completion percentage are some lofty expectations, especially for a running team. Not to mention they lost their best RB and have only 1 proven receiver who is no spring chicken. If anything, I'd expect his numbers to stay the same or drop, I see no reason why they'd open it up and take away the ball control style they've been so good at.
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Don't you have to throw the ball to get that kind of production? To say Ben is going to bust out with 32 TD's, a rating of 100+ and lead the league in completion percentage are some lofty expectations, especially for a running team. Not to mention they lost their best RB and have only 1 proven receiver who is no spring chicken. If anything, I'd expect his numbers to stay the same or drop, I see no reason why they'd open it up and take away the ball control style they've been so good at.
...and you have now lost all credibility. The Steelers are not a running team. The Steelers have a rather balanced attack in the first quarter, Ben builds a large lead, then Cowher sits on the lead by running. Cowher is very good at this. He has lost 1 game out of the 108 that he has gained a lead of 11 or more at any point in the game. While the numbers would make it appear that the Steelers are a running team, and Ben relies on the run, here are some stats that might prove otherwise:

Ben Roethlisberger's first quarter passer rating: 144.2
Ben Roethlisberger's yards per first quarter: 71
Carson Palmer's yards per first quarter: 62
Peyton Manning's yards per first quarter: 69
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I err on the side of caution, and NOBODY is harder on the Steelers than me when I'm making my football forecasts, but I've got to tell you all, I can't remember EVER being happier about what I'm seeing going into training camp. The Steelers have lost a couple of guys I've grown fond of over the years, but they have bigger & better replacements and have improved in receiving.

I'm not sure what else to say. Maybe Ben, in his 3rd season, can combine the best of his first 2 seasons & go undefeated in both the regular season and in the playoffs? :) You have to aim pretty high for something the kid hasn't already done.
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