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Old 08-08-2011, 10:31 AM   #1
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Default Time for Ben to Call Plays this Year

Every Steelers fan knows how BA is a horrible play caller. Whenever Ben was calling the plays last year (I.e. no huddle) our offense improved greatly. I also think there is something ti be said for Ben being better in the no huddle. But when Ben was calling the plays I never saw those plays where you say "what the hell was that call?".
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:15 PM   #2
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Every Steelers fan knows how BA is a horrible play caller. Whenever Ben was calling the plays last year (I.e. no huddle) our offense improved greatly. I also think there is something ti be said for Ben being better in the no huddle. But when Ben was calling the plays I never saw those plays where you say "what the hell was that call?".
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:34 PM   #3
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Default Re: Time for Ben to Call Plays this Year

they should just hand him the keys to the offense like peyton manning lol
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:43 PM   #4
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Every Steelers fan knows how BA is a horrible play caller. Whenever Ben was calling the plays last year (I.e. no huddle) our offense improved greatly. I also think there is something ti be said for Ben being better in the no huddle. But when Ben was calling the plays I never saw those plays where you say "what the hell was that call?".
A silver bullet?

Sorry, I doubt it.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:44 PM   #5
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Ben should have been calling his own plays by his 2nd year. I see no
reason why they will put their egos in a box now. BA sucks and what's
worse is he has an ego, thinking he is great. Just look at his attitude
about having a FB. He's just an a hole and is a ball and chain to this team.
We win in spite of him, not in any way because of him.
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Old 08-08-2011, 12:51 PM   #6
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No doubt!
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Old 08-08-2011, 01:02 PM   #7
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Ben should have been calling his own plays by his 2nd year. I see no reason why they will put their egos in a box now. BA sucks and what's worse is he has an ego, thinking he is great. Just look at his attitude about having a FB. He's just an a hole and is a ball and chain to this team.We win in spite of him, not in any way because of him.
You guys seem to think Ben's plays would differ greatly from Arians, but I don't why you think so.

Ben has stood up for Arians time and time again. They're home-boys. They clearly have very similary, if not the exact same, offensive philosophy. I wouldn't expect the play calls to differ much.

The offense benefits from Ben calling the plays by preventing the defense from subbing out. This, and only this, is why, in my opinion, the no-huddle has worked for Ben in the past.
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The first few series of a game is usually the only time the plays are scripted. You come out with an idea of what you want to do and then you adjust accordingly. I think the no huddle works like clopp said. And I may be mistaken, but I believe Ben does have the power to change a playcall on the fly (not sure but i think that little screen to redman vs. the ravens was all ben) Me personally, I enjoy the 8-10 minute drives much more than the 2 minute offense.

There have been plenty of instances where you kinda scratch your head, but most of the time it comes down to execution. Lots of those head scratching moments are b/c a player missed his assignment, or ran the wrong route. I don't think BA is a great coordinator, but I think Ben is a great QB...and if Ben wants BA to be his guy then quite frankly I don't care if he makes a boneheaded playcall every once and a while. So be it.

You want to talk about shitty offensive coordinators, talk to any dolphins fan and they will chew your ear off about how bad they have had it. Having an explosive offense and being able to put up lots of points is great, but balance and moderation in all things. I'm not ready to put our defense in shootout situations more than we need to just yet.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:23 PM   #9
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If you have ever hung around NFL coaches you would know how they totally
exaggerate - mostly to themselves - about how complex coordination is and
how smart you have to be to carry it off. They all think they are like major poker
players and often carry out feints and bluffs when they make plans - in everything
from drafting, to injury reports to game planning. They totally over-emphasize this
element of their job, hence they do not want to hand the keys of play calling to
such simple doofus as Big Ben. (I am not saying Ben couldn't call plays better
than most OC, but that is how they would view it.) They think they are so smart
in such a complex decision-making matrix that only master poker player
(like them) could handle it. It is crap. Ben has a better feel for what plays
will work, just going off the cuff, then guys like BA who think they are calling
plays to set up future plays, which rarely even F-ing works. They don't think a QB
will have the discipline to call plays such as an end around - that is to set up
future plays in the game - like a reverse. While OCs fart around wasting plays
to set up future plays, Ben just comes in there and calls what will work, without
wasting plays on their gad damn poker plays.

A lot of these asst. coaches will never ever come close to tasting head coaching
gigs. I had a actual employed, NFL asst. coach tell me that you can teach running
back instincts.....and he was dead serious. He must have never ever played
back yard football if he believes that. Running the ball is a natural instinct. If
you don't have a feel for the game, you never will. You can only coach up a RB
so much. But running with the rock is done by a certain feel. You can tell that
some backs seemingly have eyes all around their head, when they obviously
don't. You never teach that.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:31 PM   #10
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I think we should run the no huddle a couple of series a half, unless we have a lead. It seems to get the offense in a rhythm.
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