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Old 08-16-2011, 11:44 AM   #11
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No he doesn't. (And who the **** is Logan?)

-Pouncey only started because Hartwig was injured. Had Hartwig not suffered an injury during camp, Pouncey would have been the starting RG (only because we didn't have one).
-Good ol' vet Randle El was brought back because Tomlin has trouble making his own team. He did nothing for the first half of the season last year and had to play an absolute horrific game against the Patriots to slide down the depth chart. Hines is still ahead of Brown for no real reason other than he was SB MVP in 2005.
-Ziggy played stellar in the last half of 2010, yet was only starter because Smith was injured. Now that Smith is back, demoted.
-Sylvester has been looking like a beast but gets no time at ILB because Farrior still thinks he can cover guys Greg Jennings and Tomlin had to resign another one of Cowher's boys again.
-Butler looked good in last years preseason and never saw the field, even over career special teamers like Anthony Madison. Gay can't seem to lose his job no matter how bad he plays.
-Redman looks like Peyton Hillis Jr. He's pretty much unstoppable in the preseason. I can probably count the number of times he's gotten carries in the regular season on my 2 hands.
pretty much. I think ward is still money though. he's never been fast, but a solid possession wr.

i don't know why smith isn't cut. i mean I love the guy but is he worth the big bucks anymore after it's been proven that ziggy is solid starter material? In this phase of their career ziggy is probably better than smith. i know everybody loves smith but this is a business, not a charity.

i used to support gay but that support is fading. I thought he was a good blitzer and had a few passes defended in the red zone last year, but i noticed whenever he has to cover a wr longer than 10 yards he's almost always beaten. butler/lewis CANNOT POSSIBLY do any worse. if anything, i don't care if they don't know the defense as well. the fact that gay is slower than some linebackers in this league (runs a 4.67 40) and doesn't have any size means he's always on the wrong end of a mismatch.

speaking of guys who can't cover, i hope butler/lewis puts toast mcfadden on the bench.
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:48 PM   #12
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No he doesn't. (And who the **** is Logan?)

-Pouncey only started because Hartwig was injured. Had Hartwig not suffered an injury during camp, Pouncey would have been the starting RG (only because we didn't have one).
-Good ol' vet Randle El was brought back because Tomlin has trouble making his own team. He did nothing for the first half of the season last year and had to play an absolute horrific game against the Patriots to slide down the depth chart. Hines is still ahead of Brown for no real reason other than he was SB MVP in 2005.
-Ziggy played stellar in the last half of 2010, yet was only starter because Smith was injured. Now that Smith is back, demoted.
-Sylvester has been looking like a beast but gets no time at ILB because Farrior still thinks he can cover guys Greg Jennings and Tomlin had to resign another one of Cowher's boys again.
-Butler looked good in last years preseason and never saw the field, even over career special teamers like Anthony Madison. Gay can't seem to lose his job no matter how bad he plays.
-Redman looks like Peyton Hillis Jr. He's pretty much unstoppable in the preseason. I can probably count the number of times he's gotten carries in the regular season on my 2 hands.
- Bullshit, Pouncey would have started at center anyway. He performed better at center than at guard. Hartwig's injury didn't help his case, but it's bullshit to say that the only reason that Pouncey was not playing right guard last year was because Hartwig was injured. They could have plugged in Legursky at center too if they really wanted to, but they saw that Pouncey's play proved that he was ready and exceeded their expectations.
- Randle El served his purpose as insurance against youth and was demoted after the youth proved themselves. His play was somewhat of a disappointment, yes, but it was better to go into the season with a veteran receiver than two unproven rookies when your starting receivers are either nearing retirement or baring getting their feet wet as it is in a starting role.
- I really don't see what the issue here is. Aaron Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end that the Steelers have ever had and can still play. It is fair for the organization to show him the respect that he deserves by reinstating him as the starter for now. Besides, in all likelihood Ziggy will be seeing as much playing time as both Smith and Keisel by rotating with both. And it's certainly well within the realm of possibility that the Steelers decide in midseason to anoint Hood the starter and allows Smith to come off the bench.
- Slyvester looked pretty piss poor on multiple coverage assignments in the first game. I was disappointed with him. He still needs to prove himself. And Farrior had one of his best seasons last year. He deserves to start until he retires in the next year or two.
- Butler looked good against 4th stringers. We still know hardly anything about what he can do because he can't even get on the practice field right now. Gay will not lose his spot until somebody proves that he's more deserving.
- Redman had 52 carries in the regular season last year. I agree that he should have more, probably in excess of 100. Especially late in games.
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sylvester dosnt look very good. he just cant seem to shed a block. all it takes is one guy to touch him and he is taken out of the play. he needs to really change that if he ever wants to play in the NFL.
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I really don't see what the issue here is. Aaron Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end that the Steelers have ever had and can still play. It is fair for the organization to show him the respect that he deserves by reinstating him as the starter for now.

Was the best...He makes 6 mill plus...That could be used for another position of need...OL?
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I really don't see what the issue here is. Aaron Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end that the Steelers have ever had and can still play. It is fair for the organization to show him the respect that he deserves by reinstating him as the starter for now.

Was the best...He makes 6 mill plus...That could be used for another position of need...OL?
Your our of your mind. Its about winning now and to do so you plat the best players. You don't sit your best players that give you the best chance of winning because another player was there longer. This is the nfl not the cub scouts.
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I really don't see what the issue here is. Aaron Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end that the Steelers have ever had and can still play. It is fair for the organization to show him the respect that he deserves by reinstating him as the starter for now.

Was the best...He makes 6 mill plus...That could be used for another position of need...OL?
I don't think the coaches are starting smith based on being there longer, I think he starts because he is still a better player than ziggy. Ziggy may be the future but he doesn't deserve to start because he is cheaper than smith, he deserves to start the day he outperforms aaron smith. and that day has not come. A guy who is a couple seasons removed from being the BEST at his position is still pretty darn good. You think the Colts rewarded Manning with that contract because he had his best days ahead of him? Is he @ his peak or past it? Probably, but I'm sure they are thinking, much like what the coaches here are thinking, that an older peyton manning is still a pretty darn good QB.
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If Hood was better than Smith than he would be the starter. Any coach that doesn't put the best possible team on the field won't be coaching long.
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If Hood was better than Smith than he would be the starter. Any coach that doesn't put the best possible team on the field won't be coaching long.
Bullshit. Antonio Brown is better Hines Ward at this point in his career but as long as Ward is healthy, he'll never be ahead on the depth chart.
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- Bullshit, Pouncey would have started at center anyway. He performed better at center than at guard. Hartwig's injury didn't help his case, but it's bullshit to say that the only reason that Pouncey was not playing right guard last year was because Hartwig was injured. They could have plugged in Legursky at center too if they really wanted to, but they saw that Pouncey's play proved that he was ready and exceeded their expectations.
- Randle El served his purpose as insurance against youth and was demoted after the youth proved themselves. His play was somewhat of a disappointment, yes, but it was better to go into the season with a veteran receiver than two unproven rookies when your starting receivers are either nearing retirement or baring getting their feet wet as it is in a starting role.
- I really don't see what the issue here is. Aaron Smith is the best 3-4 defensive end that the Steelers have ever had and can still play. It is fair for the organization to show him the respect that he deserves by reinstating him as the starter for now. Besides, in all likelihood Ziggy will be seeing as much playing time as both Smith and Keisel by rotating with both. And it's certainly well within the realm of possibility that the Steelers decide in midseason to anoint Hood the starter and allows Smith to come off the bench.
- Slyvester looked pretty piss poor on multiple coverage assignments in the first game. I was disappointed with him. He still needs to prove himself. And Farrior had one of his best seasons last year. He deserves to start until he retires in the next year or two.
- Butler looked good against 4th stringers. We still know hardly anything about what he can do because he can't even get on the practice field right now. Gay will not lose his spot until somebody proves that he's more deserving.
- Redman had 52 carries in the regular season last year. I agree that he should have more, probably in excess of 100. Especially late in games.
The coaching staff were all going to start Hartwig up until they realized that Poucey was better in every single aspect of the game. It took them an injury and 4 weeks of preseason to realize this. Had Hartwig been healthy, he would have been center.

Timmons+Sylvester is going to wreak havoc as soon as Farrior realizes he's too slow drop into coverage anymore and retires. He had a rebound year last year and that was because he was god awful in 2009. 2010 wasn't even close to "one of his best seasons ever." I almost spit out my coffee when I read that. Timmons can take all the credit for everything good that happened in that position last year.

Butler looked good against 4th stringers. Gay looked bad against a prototypical 4th string quarterback, Rex Grossman.

I actually don't mind Aaron Smith starting over Hood. Smith shows no decline in his game when he's on the field despite being old unlike Ward and Farrior.

-Randle El served the purpose of being one of the most moronic signings ever. He's always sucked and is terrified of the endzone. Same applies with this WR from youtube that plays special teams:



At least Cotchery was a solid WR with the Jets.
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