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Old 08-22-2011, 01:34 PM   #41
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LOL, the Raiders suck.
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Old 08-22-2011, 04:25 PM   #42
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he meant to say athletic QB who is just as much of a threat to score with his legs as his armx
Randle El threw the pass that put that Super Bowl away. Besides, quarterbacks get drafted as wide receivers all the time. Look at Hines Ward, for example. The question was whether or not the Steelers should take a look at him. The answer to that question lies with the Steelers' roster: we're set at WR, and certainly at QB, so it was never really going to happen. KR/PR? Maybe, but a stretch.
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Old 08-22-2011, 05:55 PM   #43
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Randle El threw the pass that put that Super Bowl away. Besides, quarterbacks get drafted as wide receivers all the time. Look at Hines Ward, for example. The question was whether or not the Steelers should take a look at him. The answer to that question lies with the Steelers' roster: we're set at WR, and certainly at QB, so it was never really going to happen. KR/PR? Maybe, but a stretch.
is English a second language for you?

again, all that dude was trying to say is that he doesn't believe an athletic QB can take a team to and win the Superbowl

Randle El and Desmond Howard were WRs (Howard wasn't a QB at all, not sure why you even mention him, many WRs are used as return guys), they were never starting QBs in the NFL like K.Stewart / Vick / V.Young / Dixon / Tebow / Newton (and what Pryor wants to be) etc...
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where was howard mentioned ?
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is English a second language for you?

again, all that dude was trying to say is that he doesn't believe an athletic QB can take a team to and win the Superbowl

Randle El and Desmond Howard were WRs (Howard wasn't a QB at all, not sure why you even mention him, many WRs are used as return guys), they were never starting QBs in the NFL like K.Stewart / Vick / V.Young / Dixon / Tebow / Newton (and what Pryor wants to be) etc...
Dude... chill out. First of all, they're all athletic. Secondly, running quarterbacks can and have won Super Bowls, Steve Young for example. Thirdly, the question was whether or not a Slash-type would benefit the Steelers, not whether or not they needed a Slash-type at quarterback, where we are set. Fourthly, the idea is having versatile, multi-threat players, which is why I brought up Howard.

Cribbs is the same thing in Cleveland, and it's amazing to me that his name hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet. College QB, returning kicks and punts primarily, WR as well quite often, and occasionally playing QB on gadget plays/Wildcat formations. Now, Cribbs is never going to win a Super Bowl for so long as he is with the Cleveland Browns, but that has nothing to do with him or his Slash-like talents. If he were to sign tomorrow with the Steelers, Patriots, Colts, etc., he would very likely contribute greatly to a Super Bowl run.

You're obsessing over taking Pryor as a QB and playing him as such. I never suggested any such thing.
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where was howard mentioned ?
maybe actually read the thread before chiming in

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Randle El won a Super Bowl. So did Desmond Howard, maybe a bit of a stretch for the "slash" title, but not by much.

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Dude... chill out. First of all, they're all athletic.
"athletic QB" is the polite term used for the players at the position who aren't as big of a threat to be able to beat you strictly with their arm, ie implying they're not very good making reads or with accuracy down the field.

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there's the QB who can pick apart a defense through the air and there's the QB that has to use his legs because he can't make all the reads fast enough and his instinct to tuck and run takes over. Occasionally we get a QB that scramble like Steve Young or Aaron Rodgers or even our own Ben Roethlisberger, however they are most certainly NOT "running" QBs, they are first and foremost going to beat you through the air, they might create something with their legs but in the long run the true damage will end up being through the air.

Take away their ability to run and they could still play, they'd no longer be great players, but they could do it.

Do the same for a player like Vick or Tebow and they wouldn't have even been playing college ball let alone be in the NFL.

The true pipe dream is a player that could truly do both on any given play, but the speed and physicality of the NFL makes that likelihood neigh impossible (a player might be able to do it for a few seasons before inevitable injury ends that all)

Steve Young was the closet player to do it on the passing side of things. Sure, he ran a lot, but he was able to run because of the threat of his prolific ability to pass. However all the concussions he suffered are a perfect example of why this kind of QB isn't exactly encouraged.

On the flip side we have a player like Michael Vick (who averages nearly twice the yards rushing per game than Steve Young) who's best moments passing occur because of the defense overcompensating for his ability to burn them with his legs.

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Thirdly, the question was whether or not a Slash-type would benefit the Steelers
no, this derailed when you misunderstood what someone else was trying to say, it really doesn't have much to do with the original topic

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You're obsessing over taking Pryor as a QB and playing him as such. I never suggested any such thing.
I'm not obsessing over Pryor as a QB, I was only trying to correct your misunderstanding of what someone else said
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I'm not sure Slash 1.0 worked out well enough for us for that to be a selling point. But, yeah, why not, if he can play at least one position well. I think we're set at WR, but who knows?
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I'm not sure I would want him, unless he could be a WR. I feel like teams that employ the wildcat don't have a good quarterback, so they have to fool you to be successful. If he can catch, he could take what we thought would be Limas Sweed's role.
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as a permanent qb ? hell no.... but as an athletic role player , i'd say korkie did pretty well.
with pryors size and speed , assuming he can catch, he could line up at any position.
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What about TE, RB in goal line packages? Could earn his stripes as a punt returner? Basically not really sure but his potential does merit some consideration. The ROI could be worth it.
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oh how someone has quickly forgotten Randle El

he doesn't have to be a wildcat guy to work a classic Steeler gadget play
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I don't understand why y'all wouldn't take a flyer on him in the fifth round. He is a freak athlete who has a lot of experience and is a winner and can play a plethora of positions. If he doesn't pan out, just cut him it's not like 5th round picks have a ton of value anyway. He made a nice TD catch in the fiesta bowl against texas his freshmen year btw, so he can catch.

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i think hes worth a 4th.

can he punt?
Please read above a whole lot of "the original topic", as you put it. Most everyone (including you, oddly enough) suggesting Pryor working for us as other-than-a-QB. There were others I didn't multi-quote that continued along this line, but why beat a dead horse?
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