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Old 08-26-2011, 12:02 AM   #11
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Should have IR'd him last year and kept Gibson
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I expect the FO to tell him and Farrior maybe even Ward to retire to save face instead of cutting them and disgracing them.
Yep

Of course we still have guys in here who think Ward is still an elite receiver because he averaged 0.8 more YPC than Roddy White last year ("SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER!"). Nevermind the fact that Roddy had double the yards, TDs and receptions Ward had. Those are just 'fantasy stats.' Meaningless.
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I'll come back and eat crow if he plays out the season without getting put on IR again. just from his track record of not being able to finish a season out in the last few years, I'm not confident that he can do it anymore. for as much money as he's making, it's not worth only having his services for 8 games.

as for ziggy he has the potential to be better than aaron smith, but won't get any better rotting on the bench. sure he's not aaron smith yet, but he's already pretty damn good.
Again, if the Steelers choose to cut Aaron Smith, who do they have at backup DE? Two rookies. Granted, Cameron Heyward is a first round pick, but do you think he should be starting already? I don't want him a snap away from starting a game just yet. And the other likely DE without Smith would be who, Corbin Bryant? Come on, think a little.

Secondly, as the coaches have stated ad infinitum this offseason, Ziggy Hood is going to be used like a "4th starter" this year. He's going to be subbing in and out for both Smith and Keisel this year and will very likely see as many snaps as either of them. He will get his playing time. He just won't be starting. At least not to begin the season.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:12 AM   #14
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Again, if the Steelers choose to cut Aaron Smith, who do they have at backup DE? Two rookies. Granted, Cameron Heyward is a first round pick, but do you think he should be starting already? I don't want him a snap away from starting a game just yet. And the other likely DE without Smith would be who, Corbin Bryant? Come on, think a little.

Secondly, as the coaches have stated ad infinitum this offseason, Ziggy Hood is going to be used like a "4th starter" this year. He's going to be subbing in and out for both Smith and Keisel this year and will very likely see as many snaps as either of them. He will get his playing time. He just won't be starting. At least not to begin the season.
Cameron Heyward will be a better DE than Ziggy Hood. He is a perfect mold for a 3-4 DE. Ziggy wasn't, which is why he was less than spectacular in 2009 when Smith got hurt.

Besides, they're not letting go of Smith. They'll let him play his final year and Heyward will have a year of experience under his belt and being in rotation with Keisel. I don't think they intend to let Ziggy play that side. I going to go on a limb and say he will rotate in at NT rather than there.
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I never said the players / coaches were idiots, don't put words in my mouth bro. I'm just saying I'm not confident that Smith will say healthy for the entire year. If he does, then I'll gladly say I was wrong. Hood might go down with a freak injury but come on man, the chances of a younger player like hood getting a season ending injury is much less.
i never said you said all players/coaches were idiots, so how could i possibly be putting words in your mouth, bro?

as for your off the wall assertion (with no statistical data to back it up) that an older player is more likely to go down with a freak injury than a younger player, how do you explain the average NFL players career only lasting about 3 years (see baron batch) while old dogs such as ward, manning,ray lewis, favre keep on ticking?

even the great jerry rice eventually had a freak accident. his was no different than the much younger javon walker's.

just about every player is gonna suffer a wicked injury at some point regardless of age. (see jerome bettis, duce staley, and willie parker)

its the nature of the beast
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Should have IR'd him last year and kept Gibson
why?

would he have kept the bench warmer during the SB?



or are you just an OSU homer? you dont think s. holmes is the greatest wr in the league, do you?
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Cameron Heyward will be a better DE than Ziggy Hood. He is a perfect mold for a 3-4 DE. Ziggy wasn't, which is why he was less than spectacular in 2009 when Smith got hurt.

Besides, they're not letting go of Smith. They'll let him play his final year and Heyward will have a year of experience under his belt and being in rotation with Keisel. I don't think they intend to let Ziggy play that side. I going to go on a limb and say he will rotate in at NT rather than there.
Keisel has to rest, and Heyward will by no means see even a third of the playing time Hood will see. I'm fully confident that Hood will play plenty of snaps as the RDE this year, as he has the past two years already. Whether or not Heyward will be a better player at the position in the future is irrelevant to 2011, which is the subject under discussion.
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as i've said before, you guys are waaay to obsessed over the word "starter". especially when it comes to the Dline and wr's the two positions so many of you want to push a proven vet to the side for a younger player.
the Dline constantly gets rotated especially at the beginning of the season when its hotter. hood will get his playing time so calm down folks.
as far as WR's go , they use 3 or 4 wr sets more often than not so whats the big deal ?
would you prefer having brown or sanders over ward the best blocking receiver in the nfl , blocking on a running pllay ?
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why?

would he have kept the bench warmer during the SB?



or are you just an OSU homer? you dont think s. holmes is the greatest wr in the league, do you?
not to mention gibson was cut by the niners (now with the skins).. i didn't realize the niners were so stacked at OLBer that they would release such a treasure
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why?

would he have kept the bench warmer during the SB?



or are you just an OSU homer? you dont think s. holmes is the greatest wr in the league, do you?
If Holmes was still on this team, we'd have one of the best WR corps in the past 10 years on any team. Wallace+Holmes+Brown+Sanders+Cotchery...I really don't think you can find a team that can stop that if we go 5 wide.

No, I'm not an OSU fan but I do believe Gibson was a better player than Worilds. IRing Smith means we would have kept Gibson. Looks like the Steelers know they made a mistake too when they tried to bring him back.
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