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Old 09-13-2011, 09:50 AM   #21
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Default Re: mendenhall only in for 20 of 61 snaps

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Does it matter to run when you are down 35-7? The running game is away to move the chains slowly while the passing game is to get those big plays in a flash. You have to look at the circumstance.
What about 14-7 or 21-7? The game was still manageable then.
Running the ball also helps to keep that gawd awful D off the field.
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Old 09-13-2011, 12:57 PM   #22
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whats funny is airhead typically abandons the running game to deflect attention from himself. ben and pouncey are golden, so nobody wants to blame them for mendehall being smothered by ngata before he even had the ball.

and of course, arians lacks any bit of accountability. he runs his mouth at any given opportunity, but ive never heard him shoulder the blame for anything. he lets tomlin or the players carry that burden.

its just like him abandoning the run in last years superbowl when it was his hybrid wannabe 270 lb TE fullback who whiffed on a block, allowing mendenhall to so graciously fumbnle.
i sure do miss the run blocking FB who catch a pass out of the backfield instead we have a TE playing FB that can't block or catch a pass
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Default Re: mendenhall only in for 20 of 61 snaps

You think Vonta Leach is a better pass catcher than David Johnson? Or are you just making crap up because you're upset like half of this forum does?
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Old 09-13-2011, 06:09 PM   #24
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Does it matter to run when you are down 35-7? The running game is away to move the chains slowly while the passing game is to get those big plays in a flash. You have to look at the circumstance.
True, but you don't put a back on the field just to call a run play on every down. We had an O-line that couldn't block water, so it's no surprise that every time we went empty set, the Ravens brought the house. Hell, they brought it when there was a back on the field, but they was no reason to slacken off with 4 wideouts and two ends on the field. go man coverage on the wideouts and you know that the two TE are gonna have to block (or try to, in Johnson's case) so you've got two linebackers you can be creative with. Which is what the Ravens did. At least with one back in, you've got a chance of giving Ben a second extra to make a play, or the D has to keep a linebacker or the nickelback behind the line for the potential delay.

If we played more no-huddle, and had a decent TE to go with Miller then the empty set might work better, but when your taking delay of game penalties and calling timeouts cos the play clock is down to zip, all the empty set does is give a team on D against a team with a crappy O-line time to confuse - and that's all Ben looked all afternoon. If I could see it 3000 miles away, why couldn't the coaching staff?
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Default Re: mendenhall only in for 20 of 61 snaps

Exactly, and Mendy is a pretty nifty blocker, can catch well, and obviously knows how to run. He's also a first round pick. You'd think they'd want to play him.
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if our OC sucks ass and i know he does
why doesn't Tomlin do something about it
are they.. you know friends with benefits
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What about 14-7 or 21-7? The game was still manageable then.
Running the ball also helps to keep that gawd awful D off the field.
That is true, but remember Ngata's FF and Lewis's INT. Then you were down 29-7. By a whopping 4 scores. With about 12 min in the third left. And seeing how are defense couldn't stop squat, they needed those big plays so they can hopefully catch up to the Ravens.

I liked the game plan in that situation, just not how it was executed.
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True, but you don't put a back on the field just to call a run play on every down. We had an O-line that couldn't block water, so it's no surprise that every time we went empty set, the Ravens brought the house. Hell, they brought it when there was a back on the field, but they was no reason to slacken off with 4 wideouts and two ends on the field. go man coverage on the wideouts and you know that the two TE are gonna have to block (or try to, in Johnson's case) so you've got two linebackers you can be creative with. Which is what the Ravens did. At least with one back in, you've got a chance of giving Ben a second extra to make a play, or the D has to keep a linebacker or the nickelback behind the line for the potential delay.

If we played more no-huddle, and had a decent TE to go with Miller then the empty set might work better, but when your taking delay of game penalties and calling timeouts cos the play clock is down to zip, all the empty set does is give a team on D against a team with a crappy O-line time to confuse - and that's all Ben looked all afternoon. If I could see it 3000 miles away, why couldn't the coaching staff?
I agree, I think using the same game plan that the Ravens used would've helped. By using screens and check downs against the slow LBs of the Ravens. This would've opened up the WRs and hopefully gotten those big 50+ yard plays and somehow get us back in the game.
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Not sure what you're complaining about. Prior to Sunday the Steelers coaching staff made all of the right decisions and only you and Bruce Arians were right.
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maybe we purposely lost this one so we can KILL the Ravens next time we meet up. I mean we only need so many wins to advance to the playoffs...why show any or all of your cards right up front??
Hello......you play to win the game....(Who am I ?)....anyhow, its a division game, those you dont want to lose......
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