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Old 09-18-2011, 11:47 AM   #31
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I think Colon may be in danger of being cut next year. He's only going to have played 1 game in the past 2 season's once this year is over.Coming off two major injuries with the amount of cap room he's taking, I'd be certain we draft another OT in the first or second round and cut ties with him.
really ? colons contract included 7.5 million in guaranteed money. 1.5 million was paid this year leaving a 6 million balance due. do you think the steelers will be in a position to take a 6 mill in dead money cap hit for colon next year ?
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:53 AM   #32
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really ? colons contract included 7.5 million in guaranteed money. 1.5 million was paid this year leaving a 6 million balance due. do you think the steelers will be in a position to take a 6 mill in dead money cap hit for colon next year ?
thats exactly what i was thinking. it would be cheaper to keep him and atleast try to get something out of him. we will be in no position to pay the amortized portion of those bonuses and have them accelerated towards next years cap.

the good thing is we were smart enough to give him 10-1 guaranteed, coming off injury.
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thats exactly what i was thinking. it would be cheaper to keep him and atleast try to get something out of him. we will be in no position to pay the amortized portion of those bonuses and have them accelerated towards next years cap.

the good thing is we were smart enough to give him 10-1 guaranteed, coming off injury.
not only that, he seems to think if they pick a tackle in the frirst 2 rounds he automaticly becomes starter... where was gilbert in the bmore game ? the bench you say ? oh you mean he couldn't beat out a buffalo scrub cast off ?
pouncey was the exception as far as the steelers go...not the rule.
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Old 09-18-2011, 11:58 PM   #34
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It depends on how good he looks at camp. A torn tricep is a very bad injury for a tackle to have. I think we're going o-line in the first round next year regardless if we keep him or not; which kind of sucks because we have so many needs in our secondary and a future NT.
"So many". Those words probably require defining. Obviously in your world things are different than the world most of us live in.
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"So many". Those words probably require defining. Obviously in your world things are different than the world most of us live in.
McFadden or Gay will be gone next year. Maybe both. Our coaching staff obviously doesn't have any faith whatsoever in Lewis because I think he'd see the field at #2 corner today with McFadden injured against a terrible Seahawks team who's missing their best receiver. I think Brown was an absolute steal in the 3rd round in this years draft but who knows when he'll get a chance to compete for the nickel spot. Clark and Troy are pretty old and I don't think Clark is very good to begin with. Our backups to them are late 6th round pick Ryan Mundy and Will Allen. Both can easily be upgraded.

So #2 CB/nickle corner are pretty pressing needs. Free safety is up there too. We haven't addressed that position anywhere in the draft in a while.

I think outside of offensive guard, CB and FS are our next priorities in the draft. Some of you guys say NT but we've addressed d-line in the first round of the 2 out of the last 3 drafts. I doubt they do it again.
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I tend to agree with you, although I would say that nickel is NOT a need at all. At LEAST one of Keenan Lewis, Curtis Brown, or Cortez Allen should be at least good enough to be the nickel CB next season, if the Steelers just so happen to be able to fall headfirst into a starting CB in the draft next year. Safety is definitely an issue as well with both starters being 30+.
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I'm not a huge fan of Colon in general.

Simply among the worst pass blocking tackles in the game--he's a great run blocker, but I think there's a strong possibility Gilbert will end up being an upgrade.
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#2 corner is set; the job is Brown's starting as soon as next year, assuming he's as good as advertised. I suspect both Lewis and Gay will be back again next year for the nickel and dime spots, along with Allen. So long as Brown develops and Troy stays healthy, our defensive backfield could go from atrocious to pretty darned good in one year. If anything, I'd like to see a mid-rounder to develop behind Clark.
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I'm not a huge fan of Colon in general.

Simply among the worst pass blocking tackles in the game--he's a great run blocker, but I think there's a strong possibility Gilbert will end up being an upgrade.
This myth needs to be put to rest already.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...nsive-linemen/

"We set a minimum of 1000 pass-blocking snaps which left us with 57 tackles in the study. The findings make good reading for those looking for some pass protection help in free agency. Four of our Top 15 are scheduled to hit free agency if and when a new CBA is done – including the man who has the lowest Pass Blocking Efficiency rating over the past three years – even if he did miss all of 2010.

That man is Willie Colon. With Colon missing for the year, the Steelers were without a guy who, over the previous two years, had given up only 43 QB disruptions, and the team finished among the worst pass protection units in the league. By contrast, 2010 saw Flozell Adams give up 46 in 578 snaps in pass protection. So, for a team in need of a sound pass protector on the right side they’d do well to remember just how good Colon has been before injury wiped him from the memory of some.

And, yes, you do have to be good to finish ahead of Jake Long."

Pass Blocking Efficiency, Tackles, Top 15, 2008-2010

Rank Name Pass Blocking Snaps Total Pressures PBE
1 Willie Colon 1333 43 2.66
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This myth needs to be put to rest already.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog...nsive-linemen/

"We set a minimum of 1000 pass-blocking snaps which left us with 57 tackles in the study. The findings make good reading for those looking for some pass protection help in free agency. Four of our Top 15 are scheduled to hit free agency if and when a new CBA is done – including the man who has the lowest Pass Blocking Efficiency rating over the past three years – even if he did miss all of 2010.

That man is Willie Colon. With Colon missing for the year, the Steelers were without a guy who, over the previous two years, had given up only 43 QB disruptions, and the team finished among the worst pass protection units in the league. By contrast, 2010 saw Flozell Adams give up 46 in 578 snaps in pass protection. So, for a team in need of a sound pass protector on the right side they’d do well to remember just how good Colon has been before injury wiped him from the memory of some.

And, yes, you do have to be good to finish ahead of Jake Long."

Pass Blocking Efficiency, Tackles, Top 15, 2008-2010

Rank Name Pass Blocking Snaps Total Pressures PBE
1 Willie Colon 1333 43 2.66
Nice. Thank you. I myself assumed that he was just a run-blocker, but it's good to see actual data being analyzed.
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