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Old 09-16-2011, 04:09 AM   #31
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Default Re: Should Hines Ward still be in the starting rotation?

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I'm not going to make a case for Hines because his career speaks for itself and again you prove that you have no actual knowledge of the game. Unlike you, I don't have to demean other players to make a case for any particular player's effectiveness or value because I can do so with real observations and assessment. I won't waste my time with you, as I've seen others on here do because i don't care enough to try. Even if you are a Steeler fan and not just a troll, which I doubt, you are clearly more concerned with being right than with the good of the team. That not only makes you the worst kind of fan, it makes you dumb.
What's dumb is your inability to read and comprehend anything I'm saying. You are talking about his career and past accolades. I am talking about Friday September 16, 2011 and beyond. Of course was a great WR. There's an 90 percent chance he makes the HOF. We can find videos of how great he was particularly from 2003-2007.

You don't seem to grasp when a player has reached his full potential then sail way past it. We have 2 young wideouts now who have the ability to be great receivers. It sucks that we have to choose between Sanders and Brown in who gets gets to stay on the field. You don't let a talent like Sanders rot on the bench.
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Old 09-16-2011, 04:35 AM   #32
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Default Re: Should Hines Ward still be in the starting rotation?

damn...48 career receptions between the 2 of em , and all the sudden they are head and shoulders above the guy with 959

http://www.steelers.com/video-and-au...9-b8b92852d150
watch the video... at the 2:30 mark ben talks about how him and brown needs to get on the same page with the routes and timing.
maybe...just maybe... there's a reason why the youngsters are still sitting behind ward..
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Old 09-16-2011, 06:38 AM   #33
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Default Re: Should Hines Ward still be in the starting rotation?

If im the coach im starting Wallace, Brown and Sanders. Ward was our top guy for years but his time should be over. Its time to bring in the younger, faster and more big play capable guys. Wallace and Brown deep and Sanders in the slot. Its time to move on without Ward or Smith for that matter.
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Old 09-16-2011, 02:57 PM   #34
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If im the coach im starting Wallace, Brown and Sanders. Ward was our top guy for years but his time should be over. Its time to bring in the younger, faster and more big play capable guys. Wallace and Brown deep and Sanders in the slot. Its time to move on without Ward or Smith for that matter.
Things are headed that way. Of course they are, it's the nature of the game. What makes Hines better than the rest of them at this point is what he does without the ball. Wallace was targeted 11 times on Sunday (the most), that's 18% of the offensive plays. It's the other 82% of the time that he is not yet in Hines' league and most likely never will be because very few have ever been. The point is, that's is the part of the game that Wallace, Sanders, and Brown still need to develop. They are on pace and I have no reason to doubt they will become very good football players, but for now, Hines is better.

I'm not concerned with who starts. That's pretty irrelevant. Who do you trust on those crucial downs?
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Old 09-16-2011, 08:53 PM   #35
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on a crucial down, I would count on Ward above all of our other receivers. Wallace is great, and not just a one trick pony. Brown and Sanders are both very good and have great potential to be even better. But there's something about Ward and I would never count him out. I'd say rotate the other receivers, even if you don't want to line him up as the #1 or #2 receiver, Ward needs to be on the field for us to win.
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without Ward we have no smiles
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:55 PM   #37
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Ward is the only possession receiver we have, and a damn good one at that. You don't have to be able to run a 4.0 40 to be an effective receiver. When we are down and trying to need to mvoe the chains, Ward is our man-- I will never forget the 9 or 10 consecutive passes he caught against Jacksonville in the 2007 playoffs, or the clutch plays he made in this last playoff run.

Wallace still IS a one-trick pony at this point in his career. He is a great burner, able to stretch the field and back defenses up with his raw speed, but when he starts trying to run short-to-intermediate routes or anything but a treak up the sidelines, we end up with interceptions and dropped balls. The last SB is proof enough of that-- wrong routes ran, sloppy curl routes, etc.

No other receiver blocks like Ward does-- he is like having another Tight End on the far side and helps bolster our run game considerably.

The main reason why we have not run the no-huddle offense more, is because neither Wallace, Sanders, nor Brown knows our offense's playbook well enough to adapt and get the calls on the field.

You cannot have a WR corps made up of nothing but speedy deep threats-- you need somebody who can work the underneath stuff and rake in those hard-to-catch passes to keep chains moving. Ward has the best hands on the team, by far, with Miller a close second.

Anyone who is questioning whether or not Ward should be on the field, obviously knows squat and needs to get a DVR or something for the next Steelers game.
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What's dumb is your inability to read and comprehend anything I'm saying. You are talking about his career and past accolades. I am talking about Friday September 16, 2011 and beyond. Of course was a great WR. There's an 90 percent chance he makes the HOF. We can find videos of how great he was particularly from 2003-2007.

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This is crazy. Did YOU WATCH the game? Hines was making plays all over the field - important and critical plays. Pay attention.
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Maybe if the Steelers handed out their offense playbook to some of you, maybe you'll get it.......
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This is crazy. Did YOU WATCH the game? Hines was making plays all over the field - important and critical plays. Pay attention.
First of all I posted that before today's game.

And to comment on your post, so was Sanders and so was Brown. They even had more yards than Hines today and were both in rotation with eachother for a majority of the game.

I'm not saying Ward is a bad receiver. He's a good player to have. But I'm with pete, I would roll with Wallace, Sanders and Brown as the top 3 receivers. Sanders looks every bit of the possession receiver Ward is plus he has the speed to burn. He can block also.
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