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Old 09-30-2011, 04:39 PM   #11
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The article makes it sound like he pulled a Keenan Lewis and worked his way into Tomlin's doghouse. At some point Tomlin might want to consider cutting these guys a little more slack. Lewis might be a starter by now.

I think both of them will be competent. It's just surprising when the later-round picks develop faster, just like what happened with Woodley and Timmons.
honestly i think brown will be the better of the two, but cortez is ahead of him on the depth chart because of maturity. brown already got flagged for not being able to keep his emotions in check, a good way to get into tomlin's doghouse
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Old 10-01-2011, 02:49 PM   #12
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agree with all. i am hoping that Allen and Brown become fixtures in our defense for a long time. that will allow us to focus on OL for upcoming drafts
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Let it be true! That D needs to get a lot younger and faster in spots.
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Old 10-01-2011, 10:03 PM   #14
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Yet William Gay continues to get the start in McFadden's absence. I think it is a crime that Pouncey is the only 1st rounder to be a starter his first year while we have such handicaps with players like McFadden and Gay who are mediocre at best. Put them out there under fire and see if they can hold up. I don't see how they could be that much worse than Gay.
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Yet William Gay continues to get the start in McFadden's absence. I think it is a crime that Pouncey is the only 1st rounder to be a starter his first year while we have such handicaps with players like McFadden and Gay who are mediocre at best. Put them out there under fire and see if they can hold up. I don't see how they could be that much worse than Gay.
I know it would be quite dreamy that every draft pick automatically attained all the knowledge and instinct that is accumulated with experience. You know, the double moves that pros WRs do, the things that the Ravens like to do, the things that the Bengals and Browns like to do and other things like playing run supports and defending against reverses and knowing how to play zone in LeBeau's system.

Dude, unless you are Harry Potter and use the "Ridiculous" spell - there is no way a rookie that did not have OTAs will get everything that is needed to start at CB. You claim that you don't see how "they could be that much worse than Gay." Well so far, Gay has not given up a long TD or any TD for that matter. If you start an inexperienced rookie, I assure you that you will quickly see "how much worse" it could be.

I appreciate your frustation and agree with you that we need to get our rookie CBs the experience needed to contribute and contribute quickly - however, I think the Steelers coaches are doing that well by giving these guys measured doses of playing time and not throwing them out there to start.
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i dont know why people scoff at the idea of NOT starting rookies in their defense (especially mid rounders).

so far it has worked out great for philly and clay matthews little brother ( for those who dont know, or cant smell the sarcasm- mini clay started at mlb, was shifted to the weakside, and finds his ass sitting on the bench in week 4).

i love it when it takes a failed experiment to learn what the steelers already know.
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Yet William Gay continues to get the start in McFadden's absence. I think it is a crime that Pouncey is the only 1st rounder to be a starter his first year while we have such handicaps with players like McFadden and Gay who are mediocre at best. Put them out there under fire and see if they can hold up. I don't see how they could be that much worse than Gay.
McFadden has barely played at all, but Gay has played quite well, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. Please illuminate here how you know more about Gay's three performances than the coaches or the rest of us.
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