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Old 10-11-2011, 01:02 PM   #21
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I think you proved his point for him...


Oh, really? Please elaborate, Professor Wittgenstein.
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Old 10-11-2011, 01:26 PM   #22
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The Steelers are #1 against the pass because the best QB they have faced this year is ... Flacco? Actually, I think Schaub would have had a chance of looking great if the Texans weren't getting 6 yards a pop running the ball. Hell, he wasn't pressured at all in that game.

I'm glad they've handled their business so far and that they are buying themselves some time to perfect their game before the big challenges come along.

Anybody know why Mundy was playing so much this week?
tavarus jackson put up 319 yards against atlanta
curtis painter put up 277 against KC
hasselbeck put up 358 against baltimore.

my point is , if given the right oppurtunities these guys can put up the yards , apparently the steeler db's didn't give them those oppurtunities.
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tavarus jackson put up 319 yards against atlanta
curtis painter put up 277 against KC
hasselbeck put up 358 against baltimore.

my point is , if given the right oppurtunities these guys can put up the yards , apparently the steeler db's didn't give them those oppurtunities.
You're missing the point, MoP... we suck, the Patriots rule, and there's no point in continuing with the season.
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The Steelers are #1 against the pass because the best QB they have faced this year is ... Flacco? Actually, I think Schaub would have had a chance of looking great if the Texans weren't getting 6 yards a pop running the ball. Hell, he wasn't pressured at all in that game.

I'm glad they've handled their business so far and that they are buying themselves some time to perfect their game before the big challenges come along.

Anybody know why Mundy was playing so much this week?
Troy was lining up at ILB on some plays I believe.
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Oh, really? Please elaborate, Professor Wittgenstein.
His point: some (obviously fictitious) RB has a huge total rushing yards and everyone looks at that stat and thinks that makes him a HoF'er (ok, I embellished, but..) without looking deeper into why he had those big numbers. i.e they abused him, or his QB sucked, or.. So you have to look at more than just his stats...

Your point: stats are only misleading if all you look at is stats.


Maybe I'm missing someone's point (very possible) but seems you guys are saying the approximately the same thing, no?
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His point: some (obviously fictitious) RB has a huge total rushing yards and everyone looks at that stat and thinks that makes him a HoF'er (ok, I embellished, but..) without looking deeper into why he had those big numbers. i.e they abused him, or his QB sucked, or.. So you have to look at more than just his stats...

Your point: stats are only misleading if all you look at is stats.


Maybe I'm missing someone's point (very possible) but seems you guys are saying the approximately the same thing, no?
Hmmm... his claim is that stats are misleading, and to prove that he made up some completely fictional running back; in other words, not stats at all, but a fairy tale. Lies and fictions are misleading, of course.

My point was that stats are not misleading. They provide a good thumbnail sketch with which to begin any decent football discussion. If there's more to be told, then it should come to light at some point in that discussion, whether it's the ice water in Joe Montana's veins or having to work within a Bruce Arians offensive scheme. In any event, the stats are not misleading.

So no, we're not saying the same thing.
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So no, we're not saying the same thing.
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tavarus jackson put up 319 yards against atlanta
curtis painter put up 277 against KC
hasselbeck put up 358 against baltimore.

my point is , if given the right oppurtunities these guys can put up the yards , apparently the steeler db's didn't give them those oppurtunities.
*Seahawks didnt have their best WR(Rice)
*Titans were down their best WR(Britt)
*Texans were down their best WR(Scratch that "The" Best WR in Johnson) most of the game(As if they needed to pass anyway)
*Colts played with Collins most of the Game

Do not be fooled, we have a lot of stuff to improve on if we want to have a legit shot this year
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Hmmm... his claim is that stats are misleading, and to prove that he made up some completely fictional running back; in other words, not stats at all, but a fairy tale. Lies and fictions are misleading, of course.

My point was that stats are not misleading. They provide a good thumbnail sketch with which to begin any decent football discussion. If there's more to be told, then it should come to light at some point in that discussion, whether it's the ice water in Joe Montana's veins or having to work within a Bruce Arians offensive scheme. In any event, the stats are not misleading.

So no, we're not saying the same thing.
stats can be very misleading though.


if a team is winning 38-0 late... and then the losing team drive the field to score 2 trash tds. those are garbage yard on both sides, that can lead to misleading numbers.


either way, there is still work to be done on both sides of the ball, i dont think anyone can disagree with that
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its the pittsburgh steelers .....

EVERYBODY had the defensive backfield pegged as a glaring weakness , so how in the hell can this be ?

thje patriots are dead last.
because it's so easy to run against the steelers. also, the steelers haven't faced any decent QBs other than flacco

mcfadden being on the bench helps too
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