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Old 10-15-2011, 09:04 PM   #1
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Default Does Ben's Injury actually help the Steelers

I think the main reason for the Teams success last weekend was because Ben couldn't move. Even his drop backs looked shorter. And when he felt pressure he just stepped up like I see Brady do so consistently. Also Arians had to gameplan for it and it was a success, So well see how it works this weekend. I am always torn by Ben. He is so much better statistically when he is scrambling, but the reason he doesn't get the whistle is because he is prone to fight off tacklers. Maybe just maybe Bens inability to move outside the pocket will catch on, and add some more years to his shelflife.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:10 PM   #2
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Well Ben is undefeated with the 'super boot' on his foot.
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:42 PM   #3
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While I hope that this gameplan catches on, I have a bad feeling that BA will go right back to his goofy ways when Ben gets better.

The way they played the Titans last week is exactly the way that teams like the Packers, Pats, and Saints beat other teams. Short drops, quick releases and spreading the defense out.

Here's to this catching on...
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Old 10-15-2011, 09:44 PM   #4
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Default Re: Does Ben's Injury actually help the Steelers

He tends to play better hurt. I agree with you about him having a quick release this last game and maybe injury did have something to do with that. Also the play calling was better. The thing is though, Ben doesn't run and move out of the pocket if there is a good pocket there. So many people refer to his "style of play" as a mobile, running out of the pocket QB, but it's only due to the line. I can't ever recall seeing him run out of a pocket that's not deteriorating. This last game the play calling was anchored with shorter quick passes and Ben succeeded with that, he also does very well on long passing plays IF the line gives him time. We'll have to wait and see how things go and how the play calling goes after he is "healed" to answer your question IMO.
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He tends to play better hurt. I agree with you about him having a quick release this last game and maybe injury did have something to do with that. Also the play calling was better. The thing is though, Ben doesn't run and move out of the pocket if there is a good pocket there. So many people refer to his "style of play" as a mobile, running out of the pocket QB, but it's only due to the line. I can't ever recall seeing him run out of a pocket that's not deteriorating. This last game the play calling was anchored with shorter quick passes and Ben succeeded with that, he also does very well on long passing plays IF the line gives him time. We'll have to wait and see how things go and how the play calling goes after he is "healed" to answer your question IMO.
Agreed that's why I thought that arians gameplan changed, because he knew form the previous weeks Ben probably wouldn't have enough time. So it came together well. Where I differ with you a little is with Ben running out of the pocket, granted it's because of a beating he's been taking that's made him uneasy. I however have seen him run outside his blockers and give the defense on the ends a clearer shot at him instead of stepping up looking to throw, or he even taking his eyes off the receivers until he escapes danger then throws on the run. whereas the other great QB's never take their eyes off the feild they just step up a little and throw. But how can I critisize he's been successful, but will take alot of years off his career. Just Like Vick.
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Might not take that many years off. Guys like Steve Young, McNair, McNabb etc. were running quarterbacks who took a beating every week. They all had long careers, McNabb's is still going... kinda. I guess you could make the argument that they would have been even longer.
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Might not take that many years off. Guys like Steve Young, McNair, McNabb etc. were running quarterbacks who took a beating every week. They all had long careers, McNabb's is still going... kinda. I guess you could make the argument that they would have been even longer.
Man I have a whole new respect for Steve Young after seeing what a beating Ben takes. Was it that S.F. line was that bad or was it more by design. Man it seemed like brady against the Jets stood there with the ball for like 30 seconds and still noone was even close. I suppose that's why he's good. Why is it once a pocket passer always a pocket passer, and once a running QB almost always a running QB. When we have a running QB do coaches just see a good offensive line as just a comodity, not a neccessity? It must be a large part because the QB is just not comfortable in the pocket for very long. As for McNair I don't remember him being as much as a running QB as McNabb, but McNabb suffered alot of injuries that hurt the team, and he's a rock.
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with an immobile BR the brilliant arians couldn't play his al davis game plan. when BR is healthy the offense will be sad once more.

why did the cleveland browns let this mastermind leave?
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with an immobile BR the brilliant arians couldn't play his al davis game plan. when BR is healthy the offense will be sad once more.

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Well, even Arians has to realize that things worked very well last week and maybe ... just maybe, he might have learned something from it.

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