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Old 10-16-2011, 04:45 PM   #21
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This has nuthin' to do with "Benching Ben" which I never said -and you know it, ...
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If Ben is not quite HEALTHY, u wanna gamble with his health? -thats obviously a marketing question too ?
If not, then put BATCH in. Read the post man
-thats what I explained.
-don't twist things around.
But I know, you didn't like that "money" thing I mentioned, regarding BEN -it's ok, it comes outta ALL our pockets.
Ok yeah you didn't explicitly say bench Ben but you did suggest that putting Batch in would have been better which is nonsense when you look at their track records. Ben's health? Why play him at all if there's any doubt about his health. These guys are football players. No the money thing was stupid logic on your part implying that the other guys dislike Ben because he makes more money than them. That doesn't explain why then why Starks counts Roethlisberger as a good friend, same thing with Colon. Yeah he probably is overpaid a bit but most athletes are and it's not like Ben hasn't been a constant in us making trips back to the SB. We made one trip between 1980 and 2005 to the SB. Since Ben's been the starter we've made three and won two of them. You do the math man.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:46 PM   #22
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Bench him a week after tossing 5 touchdown passes. Brilliant.
You mean last-weeks fluke ?
I'm waiting, Ben can do/be a lot better than this. 'maybe we'll do better against tougher teams now, 'cause that's what comin'.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:49 PM   #23
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You mean last-weeks fluke ?
I'm waiting, Ben can do/be a lot better than this. 'maybe we'll do better against tougher teams now, 'cause that's what comin'.
Yeah, Batch, with his immobilty and body made of glass, gives us a much better chance of winning, particularly behind this craptastic offensive line, right? Pull your head out.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:53 PM   #24
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Ok yeah you didn't explicitly say bench Ben but you did suggest that putting Batch in would have been better which is nonsense when you look at their track records. Ben's health? Why play him at all if there's any doubt about his health. These guys are football players. No the money thing was stupid logic on your part implying that the other guys dislike Ben because he makes more money than them. That doesn't explain why then why Starks counts Roethlisberger as a good friend, same thing with Colon. Yeah he probably is overpaid a bit but most athletes are and it's not like Ben hasn't been a constant in us making trips back to the SB. We made one trip between 1980 and 2005 to the SB. Since Ben's been the starter we've made three and won two of them. You do the math man.
1./ you do agree, that Ben's OVERPAID a bit too much ?
ok, we're gettin somewhere.
2./ Batch saved the 1st 3 games of last year, almost 4 ! , that's how we got to the SB last year (whatever, actually early this year) against GB. Batch came thru' when we needed him, and, when Ben wasn't even there.
3./ Batch didn't throw the Int in the SB against GB, that cost us that SB -that, my friend was all on Ben. Mendy also played a part... but anyway. -Just ask Harrison about that ?
4./ as far as 2005/2008 goes ?, Cowher left the SB groundwork for this team, but LeBeau ("D") capitalized on it, as history has proven, in 2008 SB.
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Old 10-16-2011, 04:57 PM   #25
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a couple of years ago I would have agreed that resting Ben so that he could get healthier would have been a good idea. At this point though, I don't think Batch has much of a chance in competing for a win. He kind of reminds me of Maddox at the end of his career. I still think he's a great guy and a good back-up, just not a guy you can stick in a game just so Roethlisberger can rest.
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1./ you do agree, that Ben's OVERPAID a bit too much ?
ok, we're gettin somewhere.
2./ Batch saved the 1st 3 games of last year, almost 4 ! , that's how we got to the SB last year (whatever, actually early this year) against GB. Batch came thru' when we needed him, and, when Ben wasn't even there.
3./ Batch didn't throw the Int in the SB against GB, that cost us that SB -that, my friend was all on Ben. Mendy also played a part... but anyway. -Just ask Harrison about that ?
1. They're all overpaid. What a revelation.

2. Uh, no, Batch started the Ravens game only, which we LOST. Leftwich and Dixon started the other three.

3. We don't get back in the game against Green Bay in the Super Bowl if Batch starts. In fact, we don't get to the Super Bowl at all.
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1./ you do agree, that Ben's OVERPAID a bit too much ?
ok, we're gettin somewhere.
2./ Batch saved the 1st 3 games of last year, almost 4 ! , that's how we got to the SB last year (whatever, actually early this year) against GB. Batch came thru' when we needed him, and, when Ben wasn't even there.
3./ Batch didn't throw the Int in the SB against GB, that cost us that SB -that, my friend was all on Ben. Mendy also played a part... but anyway. -Just ask Harrison about that ?
Honestly everyone's a little overpaid. And are you forgetting that Dixon was the starter in two of those games last year. I am not knocking Batch dude. I love him as a backup but I don't think he has it for the whole season. And frankly I think even he agrees with that which is why he's stayed here and didn't pursue other starting opportunties. And yeah Ben struggled in the Super Bowl last year but remember this, he also played a role in getting us back in the game. which I doubt Batch could have done. And the D wasn't exactly blameless in the game either since Rodgers played very well against them. The SB was a team loss. It sucked and still gnaws at me but blaming Ben and Mendy alone for the loss is moronic.
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1. They're all overpaid. What a revelation.

2. Uh, no, Batch started the Ravens game only, which we LOST. Leftwich and Dixon started the other three.

3. We don't get back in the game against Green Bay in the Super Bowl if Batch starts. In fact, we don't get to the Super Bowl at all.
Batch started the Tampa game last year and did a nice job too but that's semantics really since your points are right. Batch is what he is, a solid back up but not the guy you want starting on a consistent basis. I liken him to a good relief pitcher in baseball. Doesn't have the stuff to go through a whole game or in Chaz's case the whole season but he's there when you need him.
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1. They're all overpaid. What a revelation.

-> yet again, U misquoted. I didn't say everyone is overpaid, dude READ !!! -gawd I could only wish everyone was overpaid -including you and me.

2. Uh, no, Batch started the Ravens game only, which we LOST. Leftwich and Dixon started the other three.

-> Batch helped win the 1st 3 outta 4 games last year, 'cause Ben was out for "those" reasons' (hint, hint nod, nod) -nice start -case CLOSED now.


3. We don't get back in the game against Green Bay in the Super Bowl if Batch starts. In fact, we don't get to the Super Bowl at all.
...and unfortunately bud, that, we will never know now, -revelation ?
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...and unfortunately bud, that, we will never know now, -revelation ?
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You think Batch has the strength to stay out of Suggs grasp long enough to get rid of the ball in Baltimore? You think Batch makes that 58 yard pass to Brown? Dream on.
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