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Old 06-13-2006, 11:36 AM   #11
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Default Re: Life without a helmet - Ben may have been saved

I agree with the helmet hitting the car instead of his face but I believe that impact would have done damage to his neck instead of his face.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:37 AM   #12
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Default Re: Life without a helmet - Ben may have been saved

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How would the helmet have protected his knees?

See you dont seem to get it Everyone wants to blame Ben and the fact he did not have a helmet on, no one has said anything about the person who caused the whole thing the driver of the car, who cares if ben did not have a helmet on it was his choice not to wear one, however it was not his choice to have someone run him over.
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:48 PM   #13
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If you're riding a harley, YAH, i guess maybe you can sort of justify not wearing a helmet if your in a group and not on major highways. HOWEVER, and I didnt know this until the accident, if you are riding the fastest bike legalized to ride on public roads, maybe it would be in your best interest to wear a helmet.
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:26 PM   #14
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Your statement, like mine, I believe is based on opinion. So I think I'll stick with my physics.

I guess this is a thread where we will have to agree to disagree on our opinions.

And realize that our common thought truly is that Ben gets better and as previously stated, if he can play again that's great but if he can't then just get better.
Okay, I just can't resist putting my $.02 in, although I doubt it will matter.

I have been an advocate for seatbelt and helmet laws for 20 years. And, for 20 years, I have heard the stories of people who "whould have been killed" if they had been wearing seatbelts (although I must admit, this is the first time I have heard someone speculate that a biker may have been killed by a helmet).

The statistics just don't support those claims. Car crash injury and fatality data has been collected by the government since 1975, and 30 years later, it has been proven that you are about 40% safer with them than without them.

I hope that when this is all over, that Ben will be a major advocate for helmet use. He's in a position to make a huge difference, especially with young, "it can't happen to me" drivers/riders like he was two days ago. Now he knows, "it can happen to me".
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Old 06-13-2006, 04:30 PM   #15
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See you dont seem to get it Everyone wants to blame Ben and the fact he did not have a helmet on, no one has said anything about the person who caused the whole thing the driver of the car, who cares if ben did not have a helmet on it was his choice not to wear one, however it was not his choice to have someone run him over.
I don't imagine that the 62 year-old lady in the car set out that day to run over a Super-Bowl quarterback.

Accidents happen. That's why helmets are a good idea.
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First of all I honestly dont understand how ANY state can enforce seat belt laws but doesnt have a helmet law... How smart can we get? This is just my opinion so dont let me make anyone mad at me..
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Maybe Ben was lucky not to have a helmet on yesterday morning. If you look at the impact position of the car, it looks like he was close to hitting the side of the vehicle as well. From the location of the hit, I believe if he was wearing a helmet, he could have suffered a broken neck, because a helmet would have limited his neck movement upon impact.

So for everyone out there talking about how stupid he was for not having a helmet on, take a look at the other side of it.
You don't know much about this subject do you? No negative effects could have come from wearing a helmet in this situation. Leave speculation such as this to the people who are trained to do it.
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It could be true that a helmet could have killed him or caused worse injury,but the chance is better that the injuries would have been less if he had a helmet on.
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Maybe Ben was lucky not to have a helmet on yesterday morning. If you look at the impact position of the car, it looks like he was close to hitting the side of the vehicle as well. From the location of the hit, I believe if he was wearing a helmet, he could have suffered a broken neck, because a helmet would have limited his neck movement upon impact.

So for everyone out there talking about how stupid he was for not having a helmet on, take a look at the other side of it.
That is a ridiculous thing to say!

How do you figure that a helmet would limit neck movement?

As a mtn. biker, I can assure you that a helmet is an esential tool for making it through some rides. I have hit my head on trees, rocks and the ground in crashes that have dented and cracked my helmet. I walked away from those crashes with no head injuries... or a broken neck.

You can spin the no helmet thing all you want but, it won't make not wearing one any less foolish.

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First of all I honestly dont understand how ANY state can enforce seat belt laws but doesnt have a helmet law... How smart can we get? This is just my opinion so dont let me make anyone mad at me..
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Very good point,it's actually really hypocriticle since it's more dangerous to not wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle than it is to not wear your seatbelt.
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