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Old 06-14-2006, 01:07 AM   #11
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Default Re: File charges against Martha Fleishman (person who hit Ben)

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That would all be fine if it was her fault. Too bad Ben decided to drive without a liscense. Now it is all his fault because he should have never been driving to begin with.

Well f*cking said.
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:09 AM   #12
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Default Re: File charges against Martha Fleishman (person who hit Ben)

yeah i'm with my boi steelersfan, that is just plain stupid to suggest, leave the old hag alone, she probably feel bad enough that this accident happened. nothing serious happened to ben other then the ladies ain't gonna like him anymore. lets just move on and again no need to bother the old lady
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Old 06-14-2006, 03:55 AM   #13
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She's an old lady, cut her some slack. If it would have been an 18 year old male that pulled out in front of Ben some of us would be calling him a reckless driving punk. The lady made a mistake that thousands of people make every day. There was no recklessness on her part. Reckless driving is defined as "Operating a motor vehicle with willful and wanton disregard to the safety of persons and or property." That definition is certainly not applicable in this case.

The old lady was definitelyat fault in the crash and she will most likely receive a citation for "failure to yield the right of way to oncoming vehicles". It's a minor infraction that carries no jail time. She will have to pay a fine that is somewhat enhanced because the violation caused a motor vehicle crash. The Department of Motor Vehicles might summons the old lady in and require that she perform a driving test to ensure that she has the ability to satisfactorily operate a motor vehicle. The lady's insurance company will be responsible for Ben's medical expenses and the replacement of his motorcycle. The insurance company will also pay Ben for pain and suffering, which depending on the insurance company, ranges anywhere from 2 to 4 times his medical expenses.

Ben on the other hand is facing more of a penalty than the old lady. Riding a motorcycle without a motorcycle endorsement can land you in jail for a maximum of 6 months. I seriously doubt that Ben will receive any jail time but I'm guessing that he will be placed on non-reporting probation. He will also be required to complete some type of community service, most likely speaking to motorcyclist about the hazards of riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

In closing I want to metion this. If anyone does decide to send the old lady a threatening/harassing letter or message, they will without question, spend enough time in jail to miss the entire 2006 NFL regular season.

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Old 06-14-2006, 06:13 AM   #14
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Default Re: File charges against Martha Fleishman (person who hit Ben)

*shakes head*

Why dont we just hang her publically at Heinz Field?


OHHH..I know!!...we can do it on 9/7/06...on national TV...before the fins game!!!

PUHLEEEZ....drop this will ya??? It was an accident...like hundreds of thousands of other accidents. Enough of this crap. Ben..heal..get better...we need ya....but please....enough vilifying of this woman.
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:19 AM   #15
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Come on everyone now this is just plain silly. DROP IT. Our beloved quarterback is going to be fine, be thankful don't be out to get anyone on this, keep in mind our beloved quarterback was riding against the law so if you have to place blame when you should be thanking GOD.........you go for it but our darling qb was also a lawbreaker.
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Old 06-14-2006, 07:18 AM   #16
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Default Re: File charges against Martha Fleishman (person who hit Ben)

That lady didnt no more mean to hurt Ben than the man on the moon. I bet she feels real bad about the whole deal
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Old 06-14-2006, 08:37 AM   #17
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Do we really want her name on public display?
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:28 AM   #18
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Ok forget the sueing for money part, since many seem to be hung up on that. What I'm trying to say is everyone is trying to put all the blame on Ben for not wearing his helmet, when this lady isn't even being blammed for the accident which was almost entirely her fault.

What I think should happen?

- She gets several points on her drivers license for wreckless driving.
- She has to go to some driving classes to see if she is still fit to drive (62 yrs old)
- Issue personal apology to Roethisberger and his family taking responsibility for her actions.
- Possible community service

And no I wouldn't care as much if it was someone else. But since it is someone I care about I want this lady prosecuted to the full extent of the law so she gets what she deserves.
You're letting your emotional attachment to a football team cloud your rational judgement.

I suppose you've never in your life made a mistake while driving. Never tried to beat a red light, never "not seen" the stop sign, never switched lanes without signalling and never cut off another driver.

Shit happens... she didn't see him coming and made her turn. It was an accident, not a malicious attempt to eliminate a motorcycle riding NFL quarterback.
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:29 AM   #19
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Default Re: File charges against Martha Fleishman (person who hit Ben)

I bet 90% of motorcycle accidents happen this way...old people don't see as well, and, unless you want to try and take on the AARP and try and get their drivers licenses all revoked, it's not gonna change. Hell, when I was in my big wreck in December, it was an older woman who looked RIGHT AT ME and still pulled out right in front of me. This shit is just going to unfortunately happen from time to time...no need to go on a witch hunt over it.
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Old 06-14-2006, 09:45 AM   #20
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Hey, it's like this. Our hero was in the wrong place, at the wrong time, sans helmet and license. Old lady was just a part of the picture.
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