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Old 11-07-2011, 02:08 AM   #11
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Default Re: Defenseless reciever

Clark went helmet to helmet on that play so the penalty should have come anyway but I was a little pissed off when they called it defenseless receiver, that in no way should have been the call. Should have been the same outcome, but not that call. He was NOT defenseless, he had the ball in his effing hands.
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:34 AM   #12
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Clark went helmet to helmet on that play so the penalty should have come anyway but I was a little pissed off when they called it defenseless receiver, that in no way should have been the call. Should have been the same outcome, but not that call. He was NOT defenseless, he had the ball in his effing hands.
give me a ****ing break.. Lewis hit Ward with a blindside helmet-to-helmet hit from the side/rear.. Clark and the receiver were face-to-face when he hit him, trying to dislodge the ball. it's an absolute joke they'd call a penalty on the hit by Clark, but not on the hit by Lewis. Lewis wasn't even making a play on the ball. it's disgusting that in today's game, you pretty much have to let the receiver come down with the ball rather than going high and attempting to knock the ball out... because if you go high for the ball, you're almost always going to make contact with the helmet and draw a flag.
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Old 11-07-2011, 02:38 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=jjpro11;960538 because if you go high for the ball, you're almost always going to make contact with the helmet and draw a flag.[/QUOTE]

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Old 11-07-2011, 06:58 AM   #14
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It was a missed call... Agreed. But it didn't lose the game. Throwing incomplete passes when you are trying to kill the clock with the lead and not stopping a two minute 92 yard drive lost the game for you....

For a fan base that throws stones for years at Ravens fans about complaining about officiating, there is hardly a thread without a complaint on this forum right now.

This was a great game that came down to the best team winning. I'm sure we'll see you guys again, but hopefully in Bmore this time.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:07 AM   #15
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It was a missed call... Agreed. But it didn't lose the game. Throwing incomplete passes when you are trying to kill the clock with the lead and not stopping a two minute 92 yard drive lost the game for you....

For a fan base that throws stones for years at Ravens fans about complaining about officiating, there is hardly a thread without a complaint on this forum right now.

This was a great game that came down to the best team winning. I'm sure we'll see you guys again, but hopefully in Bmore this time.
I agree we should have stopped the 92 yard drive, however, the non call was huge, it would have resulted in 1st and goal and who knows what happens from there. And I agree it wasn't the difference in the game.
It was a great game, but what concerns me going forward is the state of officiating in the NFL. It is awful across the board and these missed calls may rear thier head in the playoffs or Super bowl and may cost a team the game then, no matter if its Steelers, ravens or anyone else.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:15 AM   #16
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I agree. It was wildly inconsistent all game. I thought the defenseless receiver call we got was a pretty clean looking hit to me. I think the whistle on rices TD in the first half was pretty early as well. It is what it is. See y'all in January.
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For a fan base that throws stones for years at Ravens fans about complaining about officiating, there is hardly a thread without a complaint on this forum right now.
That's because there's a reason for it this time. I could see bitching about non-holding or false start calls, but blatant offensive pass interference on the TD catch? Helmet2helmet on one team but not the other? These are game changing calls, and worthy of criticism of the refs.
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It was a missed call... Agreed. But it didn't lose the game. Throwing incomplete passes when you are trying to kill the clock with the lead and not stopping a two minute 92 yard drive lost the game for you....

For a fan base that throws stones for years at Ravens fans about complaining about officiating, there is hardly a thread without a complaint on this forum right now.

This was a great game that came down to the best team winning. I'm sure we'll see you guys again, but hopefully in Bmore this time.
Yeah bottom line is we should have stopped you guys on the 92 yard drive so I don't blame the refs for the loss. Not happy with their calls but they're not why the Steelers lost last night. What kills me is I knew how crucial that pick by Suggs in the third quarter was going to be because these games always come down to the wire. It was a team loss and an equal team win byour guys. Hope we get another crack at them because I think we'll win that. This one hurts to me more than a game like week 1 because they were in it till the end.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:49 AM   #19
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It was a missed call... Agreed. But it didn't lose the game. Throwing incomplete passes when you are trying to kill the clock with the lead and not stopping a two minute 92 yard drive lost the game for you....

For a fan base that throws stones for years at Ravens fans about complaining about officiating, there is hardly a thread without a complaint on this forum right now.

This was a great game that came down to the best team winning. I'm sure we'll see you guys again, but hopefully in Bmore this time.
This is out of left field. No one is saying that this call cost them the game...by any means. It was just bullshit, that's all.

After all the fines and penalties that Harrison and Co. had do deal with last year, and all the blah blah blah-ing from Goodell about player safety, you'd think something as blatant as Lewis' hit would have elicited a penalty. That's all. Consistency.

Nearly every person here (you'll always have the handful of random fans saying this or that penalty cost the game...in any fanbase) knows it was a collective team loss though.

That non-call was bullshit though, and it's not about whether it would have been a game changer had it been called...it's about the principal of it all. Our defense got called cheap and dirty by so many other teams fans last year because of calls exactly like the one that should have been called against Lewis. So, I think we have every right to complain about it from that standpoint.
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Well, the fact is, they don't call it on Lewis....but they call it on Clark. And yes, it could have affected the game outcome. We just don't know.
Wrong call.
Will Lewis being fined for "helmet-to-helmet"? There were 2 instances last year, all show clearly on instant replay over and over, where Hines was hit helmet-to-helmet. No fine.
Its a double standard and inconsistent. I'm not whining but when OUR players get fined for the exact same thing, somethings wrong. Terribly wrong.
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