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Old 11-07-2011, 07:07 AM   #21
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Default Re: Defenseless reciever

The calls or lack thereof didn't matter when we should've stopped them, but lewis' hit looked even more blatant and no call. They need to fine refs for bad calls.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:33 AM   #22
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Well, the fact is, they don't call it on Lewis....but they call it on Clark. And yes, it could have affected the game outcome. We just don't know.
Wrong call.
Will Lewis being fined for "helmet-to-helmet"? There were 2 instances last year, all show clearly on instant replay over and over, where Hines was hit helmet-to-helmet. No fine.
Its a double standard and inconsistent. I'm not whining but when OUR players get fined for the exact same thing, somethings wrong. Terribly wrong.
If Ray doesn't get fined, I'll be amazed. It was clearly helmet to helmet and he should have been penalized. But the refs in the game missed it. Period. Just like they blew the whistle with Ray Rice still pushing over the goal line.

It was a missed call, and a bad one. As for Clark, by the letter of the law I guess you call it because he hit the dude in the face with his helmet, but from my perspective that was a textbook football play. Player caught it, Clark hit him in the chest and knocked the ball loose. I'll take the 15 yards, but I think that was a legit football play.

IMO Ray should pay a fine and Clark should not. But as for the field, the call was missed. Plain and simple.
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Old 11-07-2011, 07:40 AM   #23
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This article has stills and analysis of both hits. I know Clarks was against the rule too, and I understand the penalty...but I feel his was less intentional as he was obviously attempting to jar the ball loose.

I feel like the NFL has lost it's grip on how it wants to handle player safety though.

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I'd say clark made contact with his helmet, but did not lead or tackle with it. The hit looked perfect to me based on how I thought football was supposed to be played.

I don't know how to balance safety and football, but this is a mess right now....
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It almost seems like on any unsuccessful offensive play in the NFL these days, the officials look for somewhere to throw a flag. Unless you're Hines Ward of course.

As far as bitching about the refs and being like a Ravens fan - I was bitching about them when we were winning, too. I was bitching about the god-awful officiating in my wife's team's game (Saints) which they one. It was horrible. The league is getting tougher and tougher to watch.
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It almost seems like on any unsuccessful offensive play in the NFL these days, the officials look for somewhere to throw a flag. Unless you're Hines Ward of course.

As far as bitching about the refs and being like a Ravens fan - I was bitching about them when we were winning, too. I was bitching about the god-awful officiating in my wife's team's game (Saints) which they one. It was horrible. The league is getting tougher and tougher to watch.
Like a Ravens fans?
I've been going through all of these threads and all I see is bitching about the refs.
You guys aren't acting any better or worse than any Ravens fan would have. I guess because you bitch about calls on other games or when you win makes your bitching okay.
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Like a Ravens fans?
I've been going through all of these threads and all I see is bitching about the refs.
You guys aren't acting any better or worse than any Ravens fan would have. I guess because you bitch about calls on other games or when you win makes it okay.
Ravens fans = blame loss on refs

Steelers fans = bitching about refs while winning, or after a win when the officiating was horrible. Blaming our players for the loss.

If you can't see the difference, then
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Ravens fans = blame loss on refs

Steelers fans = bitching about refs while winning, or after a win when the officiating was horrible. Blaming our players for the loss.

If you can't see the difference, then
That is just your ridiculous opinion.

I have never blamed the refs for a loss. I bitch about the refs every game when they make mistakes, even when the Ravens win. Don't post about what you don't know about.
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Like a Ravens fans?
I've been going through all of these threads and all I see is bitching about the refs.
You guys aren't acting any better or worse than any Ravens fan would have. I guess because you bitch about calls on other games or when you win makes your bitching okay.
I don't want to get into a pissing match about who bitches about refs more after a loss...but it's a little bit telling when there are a couple of threads at the Ravens official message board bitching about whether or not the refs will favor the Steelers like always BEFORE the game.

Every teams fans should be bitching about the refs (win or lose) in general though. They keep getting worse and worse every year. I certainly don't blame them for the loss...the Steelers have managed to win worse officiated games than that. They had a chance to put the game away on both offense and defense, and didn't. Simple as that. Kudos to the Ravens for getting it done this time.
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I don't want to get into a pissing match about who bitches about refs more after a loss...but it's a little bit telling when there are a couple of threads at the Ravens official message board bitching about whether or not the refs will favor the Steelers like always BEFORE the game.

Every teams fans should be bitching about the refs (win or lose) in general though. They keep getting worse and worse every year. I certainly don't blame them for the loss...the Steelers have managed to win worse officiated games than that. They had a chance to put the game away on both offense and defense, and didn't. Simple as that. Kudos to the Ravens for getting it done this time.
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