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Old 06-20-2006, 08:37 PM   #1
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Default U.S. weighs shootdown of N. Korea missile.....

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Old 06-20-2006, 08:46 PM   #2
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Default Re: U.S. weighs shootdown of N. Korea missile.....

Iraq...is bad.....THIS...is worse......

You think the middle east is bad?...these guys...Im tellin ya....are way worse
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:07 PM   #3
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Iraq...is bad.....THIS...is worse......

You think the middle east is bad?...these guys...Im tellin ya....are way worse

I agree............

But the article is faulted. We had a successful shootdown off Hawaii earlier this year with one of our Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers (Aegis Phased Array RADAR).

Now, using the word "successful" is very subjective. We knew exactly what time it would be within range, exactly what altitude, exactly what speed, exactly what bearing (direction), etc....

The true test would be packaged with a certain amount of surprise.

I do not feel we are there yet..........but we are working on it.
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I agree............

But the article is faulted. We had a successful shootdown off Hawaii earlier this year with one of our Ticonderoga Class Guided Missile Cruisers (Aegis Phased Array RADAR).

Now, using the word "successful" is very subjective. We knew exactly what time it would be within range, exactly what altitude, exactly what speed, exactly what bearing (direction), etc....

The true test would be packaged with a certain amount of surprise.

I do not feel we are there yet..........but we are working on it.
I'm not an expert but .... I would think that a missle shot from there would take a while to get to the mainland.. and that would be a reasonable amount of time to shoot it down worst case scenario crash a plane or something into it...
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I'm not an expert but .... I would think that a missle shot from there would take a while to get to the mainland.. and that would be a reasonable amount of time to shoot it down worst case scenario crash a plane or something into it...

Not to bust your chops but our fastest jets couldnt catch one
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Default Re: U.S. weighs shootdown of N. Korea missile.....

good thing weve concentrated so much on Iraq, the real enemy.

those bastards have rocks and stuff!
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Default Re: U.S. weighs shootdown of N. Korea missile.....

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good thing weve concentrated so much on Iraq, the real enemy.

those bastards have rocks and stuff!
Tell that to the victims of 9/11.

Korea is a country of starving people and an insane dictator who is trying to get his name in the limelight. Russia and China should be doing something soon but can they be counted on?

If and when we shoot down a missile heading our way, our next move should be to take out their missile sites.
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Tell that to the victims of 9/11.

Korea is a country of starving people and an insane dictator who is trying to get his name in the limelight. Russia and China should be doing something soon but can they be counted on?

If and when we shoot down a missile heading our way, our next move should be to take out their missile sites.
There was no proven link between Iraq and 9/11.

They can't even tie al-Qaeda in with the Hussein regime - im pretty sure that 9/11 was the reason the US went into Afghanistan and not Iraq.

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There was no proven link between Iraq and 9/11.

They can't even tie al-Qaeda in with the Hussein regime - im pretty sure that 9/11 was the reason the US went into Afghanistan and not Iraq.

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You are partially correct...there is no Direct link between Iraq and 9/11...However...there were direct links and actual meetings verified between key officers in Sadaam's regime and Al-Queda.

I found following two posts to be informative and does in fact back your claim that ther is no DIRECT link to 9/11...make your own assumption as to the validity of the investigation.


In one of the documents checked during the investigation into the justification behind Iraq war...what was found was
an Iraqi intelligence service document saying that their Afghani informant, who's only identified by a number, told them that the Afghani Consul Ahmed Dahastani claimed the following in front of him:

That OBL and the Taliban are in contact with Iraq and that a group of Taliban and bin Laden group members visited Iraq.
That the U.S. has proof the Iraqi government and "bin Laden's group" agreed to cooperate to attack targets inside America.
That in case the Taliban and bin Laden's group turn out to be involved in "these destructive operations," the U.S. may strike Iraq and Afghanistan.
That the Afghani consul heard about the issue of Iraq's relationship with "bin Laden's group" while he was in Iran.



also in a memo reported by the Weekly Standard:
OSAMA BIN LADEN and Saddam Hussein had an operational relationship from the early 1990s to 2003 that involved training in explosives and weapons of mass destruction, logistical support for terrorist attacks, al Qaeda training camps and safe haven in Iraq, and Iraqi financial support for al Qaeda--perhaps even for Mohamed Atta--according to a top secret U.S. government memorandum obtained by THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

The memo, dated October 27, 2003, was sent from Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith to Senators Pat Roberts and Jay Rockefeller, the chairman and vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. It was written in response to a request from the committee as part of its investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the administration. Intelligence reporting included in the 16-page memo comes from a variety of domestic and foreign agencies, including the FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Central Intelligence Agency, and the National Security Agency. Much of the evidence is detailed, conclusive, and corroborated by multiple sources. Some of it is new information obtained in custodial interviews with high-level al Qaeda terrorists and Iraqi officials, and some of it is more than a decade old. The picture that emerges is one of a history of collaboration between two of America's most determined and dangerous enemies.

According to the memo--which lays out the intelligence in 50 numbered points--Iraq-al Qaeda contacts began in 1990 and continued through mid-March 2003, days before the Iraq War began. Most of the numbered passages contain straight, fact-based intelligence reporting, which some cases includes an evaluation of the credibility of the source. This reporting is often followed by commentary and analysis.

The relationship began shortly before the first Gulf War. According to reporting in the memo, bin Laden sent "emissaries to Jordan in 1990 to meet with Iraqi government officials." At some unspecified point in 1991, according to a CIA analysis, "Iraq sought Sudan's assistance to establish links to al Qaeda." The outreach went in both directions. According to 1993 CIA reporting cited in the memo, "bin Laden wanted to expand his organization's capabilities through ties with Iraq."

The primary go-between throughout these early stages was Sudanese strongman Hassan al-Turabi, a leader of the al Qaeda-affiliated National Islamic Front. Numerous sources have confirmed this. One defector reported that "al-Turabi was instrumental in arranging the Iraqi-al Qaeda relationship. The defector said Iraq sought al Qaeda influence through its connections with Afghanistan, to facilitate the transshipment of proscribed weapons and equipment to Iraq. In return, Iraq provided al Qaeda with training and instructors."

One such confirmation came in a postwar interview with one of Saddam Hussein's henchmen. As the memo details:


4. According to a May 2003 debriefing of a senior Iraqi intelligence officer, Iraqi intelligence established a highly secretive relationship with Egyptian Islamic Jihad, and later with al Qaeda. The first meeting in 1992 between the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) and al Qaeda was brokered by al-Turabi. Former IIS deputy director Faruq Hijazi and senior al Qaeda leader [Ayman al] Zawahiri were at the meeting--the first of several between 1992 and 1995 in Sudan. Additional meetings between Iraqi intelligence and al Qaeda were held in Pakistan. Members of al Qaeda would sometimes visit Baghdad where they would meet the Iraqi intelligence chief in a safe house. The report claimed that Saddam insisted the relationship with al Qaeda be kept secret. After 9-11, the source said Saddam made a personnel change in the IIS for fear the relationship would come under scrutiny from foreign probes

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Default Re: U.S. weighs shootdown of N. Korea missile.....

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You are partially correct...there is no Direct link between Iraq and 9/11...However...there were direct links and actual meetings verified between key officers in Sadaam's regime and Al-Queda.
Really?

I couldn't find any evidence of that.

I did a quick search on google and it seems there are as many articles dismissing the link as there are confirming that there is one.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun16.html

If you have some info, i'd be interested to see it.

Thanks

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