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Old 12-19-2011, 11:27 PM   #1
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Default Is Ben really an elite qb or a good qb?

ben's overall numbers are good but not great. O production is still in the low 20s (ppg) when ben was playing great. i'm just not buying elite.

my elite list is:

brady
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Is Ben really an elite qb or a good qb?

if you're basing that on his whole career, then fine.. i don't agree, but it's your opinion.. just don't rush to judgement based off this one game playing with a bad ankle. yeah, he played like shit.. it was his worst game since week 1.. but he had plenty of great games in between.

btw, Peyton Manning is elite as long as his neck holds up.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:30 PM   #3
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Default Re: Is Ben really an elite qb or a good qb?

Not to be rude, but every few weeks/months there is a post like this questioning Ben. Yes, he is an elite QB, he's proved it time and time again. Like I said I'm not trying to be rude, but defending an excellent QB who wins us games and championships for us.
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:30 PM   #4
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Default Re: Is Ben really an elite qb or a good qb?

r u kidding me....the difference between Ben and those others is they have an oc who knows how to call plays. oh and did I mention they have an oline. With all that said isn't qb's measured by winning in this league. I cannot believe some of the stuff that's posted here
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:30 PM   #5
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Yes he is. With all his injuries qbs like Brady would have beem sitting out since last week
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:32 PM   #6
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i hate the word "elite". Ben is a great leader, a general with above average position skills. Unfortunately, he's paired with a foolish, idiot offensive coordinator.
Best thing for Ben would be to get to start working w/a new one. And soon.
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Ben on any team makes that team, a playoff team.
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Default Re: Is Ben really an elite qb or a good qb?

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ben's overall numbers are good but not great. O production is still in the low 20s (ppg) when ben was playing great. i'm just not buying elite.

my elite list is:

brady
brees
rodgers

good qbs
ben
eli
rivers
romo (barely)
ryan


average qbs
sanchez
flacco
alex smith
last time i check them 3 elite QBs you wrote down haa a o-line to help them out
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Old 12-19-2011, 11:33 PM   #9
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i hate the word "elite". Ben is a great leader, a general with above average position skills. Unfortunately, he's paired with a foolish, idiot offensive coordinator.
Best thing for Ben would be to get to start working w/a new one. And soon.
a consistently solid oline wouldn't hurt either.. i thought the oline played well in the first half, but they absolutely fell apart in the second half.
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ben is good at what he does but i don't see him torching a team such as the browns or bills. to me, ben is a more consistent eli manning when healthy. eli is also a good qb but still way too inaccurate.
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