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Old 06-25-2006, 04:16 PM   #21
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Im guessing that would be hard for you guys.

There is much admiration for those two players in the league.

Both are 'elite' - and while I dont think Polamalu is the best at his position in the NFL I think he has easily the most potential upside to actually re-define the position in coming years.

If it wasn't the Patriots I would hate to see him play for any other team.

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Old 06-25-2006, 04:22 PM   #22
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Im guessing that would be hard for you guys.

There is much admiration for those two players in the league.

Both are 'elite' - and while I dont think Polamalu is the best at his position in the NFL I think he has easily the most potential upside to actually re-define the position in coming years.

If it wasn't the Patriots I would hate to see him play for any other team.

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Its going to be very hard for the Steelers when both Troy and Ben's contracts are up. How can you let either one of those players go? Ben Roethlisberger in his two years with the team.. the Steelers as a team have had so much success I can't see how you can let this guy walk. With Ben as the starting QB they have that certain mojo as a team.

Troy Polamalu is one of the best young defensive players in the whole NFL. He is the perfect hybrid S/LB type that LeBeau loves for his defensive 3-4 scheme.
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Old 06-25-2006, 04:28 PM   #23
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Its going to be very hard for the Steelers when both Troy and Ben's contracts are up. How can you let either one of those players go? Ben Roethlisberger in his two years with the team.. the Steelers as a team have had so much success I can't see how you can let this guy walk. With Ben as the starting QB they have that certain mojo as a team.

Troy Polamalu is one of the best young defensive players in the whole NFL. He is the perfect hybrid S/LB type that LeBeau loves for his defensive 3-4 scheme.
That, alas, is the payback in the salary cap era.

The Patriots have had a real hard time re-signing guys I would consider to be solid contributors, mainly due to the fact they are part of a ring winning team.

Andruzzi, Givens are a couple of guys who spring to mind.

We have dodged a bullet or two regarding major players contracts - im thinking Brady and his home town discount, Vrabel and his insistence on negotiating without an agent (How cool is that?) and the fact Bruschi seems to have a rolling contact for the rest of his career!

I watch with interest to see if the Steelers are as lucky, and part of me would like to see it work out for you guys - when we beat you I want it to be the best team you can put out.

Im sure feel the same

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Old 06-25-2006, 04:33 PM   #24
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It's simple,...if players like Troy or Ben don't get hurt,...you do everything in your power to keep them. I.e restructuring their contracts before they even become free agents. As far as Ben demanding Manning money i don't think he would do it,...because he seems like a player who's more concerned with winning than being a rich stud on a team that can't afford enough talent to get over the hump. We win another title this year he,.. deserves top three money. I mean Marsha's (Brady) got three titles,...how can he expect more than him ?


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O. Jacobs would of been a first round pick if he'd stayed at Bowling Green. While he has all the tools to be a solid if not great player. Ben already has accomplished what O. Jacobs could ever dream of achieving. Ben is a once in a lifetime player that you just can't let go of, period. But with all the injuries to starting QB's these days it wouldn't be a surprise if the Steelers kept both. Kind of reminds me of Gilliam and Bradshaw.
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There is much admiration for those two players in the league.

Both are 'elite' - and while I dont think Polamalu is the best at his position in the NFL I think he has easily the most potential upside to actually re-define the position in coming years.

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If he played the position as the position is in the "text book" he has the ability to play it as good as anyone, its just his is a much bigger role, I agree. I`m guessing that your choice would be harrison, he would be a good second pick
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If he played the position as the position is in the "text book" he has the ability to play it as good as anyone, its just his is a much bigger role, I agree. I`m guessing that your choice would be harrison, he would be a good second pick
A fully fit harrison circa 2003 would be my pick for sure - playmaking skills plus the ability to be the DB's quarterback.

I'd probably take Dawkins at this point also.

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I hope the FO would pay the guy what he wants and deserves. A guy like Ben doesn't come along that often. No way in hell would I want to see him in a ratbird uniform. We've suffered all too much with QB play in recent years. Gotta keep him!!!
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Interesting hypothesis...(YOU DEVIL!!).problems...

Omar Jacobs?...puhleez...he needs to prove he's not Tee Martin or Brian St Pierre first..
Well let's reflect on this topic.

Toledo, Akron, Western Michigan, Boise State and Wisconson were some of the tenacious defenses he couldn't beat last year.

Okay I'll throw out the loss to the Badgers. I'm not knocking on the competition at Bowling Green because I was fortunate enough to watch the likes of Polamalu and Lofa Tatupu play college ball.

Well. Yes I am.

How jaded do you think Brain St. Pierre was after the Maddox Jacksonville debacle last season. He puts a stop to the Steelers stringing him along at precisely the wrong time.
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I watch with interest to see if the Steelers are as lucky, and part of me would like to see it work out for you guys - when we beat you I want it to be the best team you can put out.

Im sure feel the same

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That is why good drafts make great teams. Getting players that understand the big picture is one way.

I don't see Ben or Troy putting a gun to the collective head of the Steelers. And I don't see Art II playing low ball with either. Merchadise numbers are way way up.

Polamalu drives a freaking pick up truck. His value system today is the exact same as when he wreaked havoc on opposing offenses at USC. Steelers Fans debating The Ben vs. Troy non-issue are having trouble accepting the good fortune. Leigh Steinberg is the only thorn that remains to keeping both Steelers for life.

Bad luck came in the first round of the last draft. I'm still dwelling on the fact that our future tailback plays for the Titans
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