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Old 01-08-2012, 01:48 PM   #1
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Default PFT - Roethlisberger warns against changing coordinators

Ron Cook strikes again as a mouthpiece for keeping Arians

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger says offensive coordinator Bruce Arians is like "a grandfather." Arians prefers "crazy uncle." The two are extremely close. Know that going in....

Roethlisberger agreed with Arians that there are more Super Bowls in his future. It's hard to imagine it happening this season, not necessarily because of his ankle but because these Steelers have not been a good road team. But Roethlisberger believes. This season. Next season. The season after that ...

"We've got something special here," he said. "We've got a lot of great young players. As long as they don't get crazy and change the offense -- that can really set you back -- the sky is the limit for this team."

Translation for Steelers management:

"Please don't even think about bringing in a new offensive coordinator. B.A. is just fine.
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http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12008...#ixzz1iseXRrr2

PFT interprets this as follows

The part about changing the offense was unprompted; Roethlisberger was sending a clear message to management. He knows that Arians isn’t overly popular in Pittsburgh despite record setting numbers for the team’s offense.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-coordinators/

The following rankings of the Steelers in points scored since BA took over as OC in 2007 are what Ben regards as "something special" and PFT regards as "record setting"

2007 - 9th
2008 - 20th
2009 - 12th
2010 - 12th
2011 - 21st

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/

The only bright spot of a loss today would be Art Rooney telling Ben and Tomlin the underperformance of the offense will no longer be tolerated and that the OC must go
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:53 PM   #2
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Default Re: PFT - Roethlisberger warns against changing coordinators

How do ya answer this, Jesus, should we get an Ariens who can actually rein-in Mr. Ben, or do we let Ben go WILD wild, with Ariens.
Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
I dunno anymore. But Ben has goota work-out some more. Tougher = resilience in the long run.
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It's a shame Ben agrees with Arians so much, this offense has WAY more potential. I think Hipchest pointed it out the best in his last thread, that we only averaged 1 more point a game then a team with a new coach, a new gameplan built around a running QB, and a complete lack of passing game, which is the Denver Broncos. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and since the week 5 game against the Titans, where the team "came together" and Starks came back, the O line has done a decent job pass blocking, it's not the major hold back it was the first 4 games. Arians is just a complete moron. With all this talent at WR/TE and a top 5 QB and a line that didn't give up a sack against Baltimore none the less, and you average one more point then Denver? Ridiculous.
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How do ya answer this, Jesus, should we get an Ariens who can actually rein-in Mr. Ben, or do we let Ben go WILD wild, with Ariens.
Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
I dunno anymore. But Ben has goota work-out some more. Tougher = resilience in the long run.
I can't understand a word you say, ever, but Ben does not need to "work out".
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Old 01-08-2012, 02:06 PM   #5
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I can't understand a word you say, ever, but Ben does not need to "work out".
No?, and does he NEED to show up to any pratices also, ???
and BTW, have you met Bayz... ?
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I don't hate Arians or even really dislike the guy either but it may be time for a change. It's understandable that Ben likes the guy. I think he's the only coach on the offense that has been here Ben's whole career. and Arians is responsible by and large for Ben having a lot of freedom on the field too to make his own decisions.
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It's a shame Ben agrees with Arians so much, this offense has WAY more potential. I think Hipchest pointed it out the best in his last thread, that we only averaged 1 more point a game then a team with a new coach, a new gameplan built around a running QB, and a complete lack of passing game, which is the Denver Broncos. There is absolutely no excuse for that, and since the week 5 game against the Titans, where the team "came together" and Starks came back, the O line has done a decent job pass blocking, it's not the major hold back it was the first 4 games. Arians is just a complete moron. With all this talent at WR/TE and a top 5 QB and a line that didn't give up a sack against Baltimore none the less, and you average one more point then Denver? Ridiculous.
It's depressing watching other teams with elite talent make it look so easy, yet the Steelers make it look like they don't even practice. It would be one thing if we didn't have a franchise QB and weapons to match like say...the Broncos.

This team has the personnel, they just have an OC that has no idea how to use them. 3 teams average over 30 pts. a game, and another 29, yet the Steelers only managed to score 30 pts. in 3 games.The 3 games Ben has played since his injury, the Steelers have scored 30 pts. combined. Pretty pathetic. Meanwhile, the Packers sit Aaron Rodgers, and their backup puts up 45 pts. with almost 500 yds and 6 tds. COACHING!!! Hell, teams with lesser personnel average more ppg the Steelers.

Hell, even the Ravens with their "worse the Arians" dummy offensive coordinator avergae 3 1/2 pts. more than the Steelers, and that's with Joe Flacco at QB, and a maybe slighty above average receivers. The 49ers with Alex Smith average 3 1/2 more pts than the Steelers. The Raiders, Bengals, Vikings and Dolphins average more pts. than the Steelers. Two of those teams have rookie QBs, a couple have no WRS, and none of them have the Steelers overall talent on offense. That's pretty awful.

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No?, and does he NEED to show up to any pratices also, ???
and BTW, have you met Bayz... ?
Of course he needs to practice, he does. What gave you the idea Ben doesn't practice or are you basing it solely on since he's been hurt? You don't risk getting hurt worse in practice. That said Ben still took part in two full practices. How do you know Ben doesn't work out, I'm sure he does to a point, strength is not something he lacks and at the QB position you don't need more strength then what Ben has! There's not many spots on the field that you need a guy stronger or tougher then Ben, and Brady is as skinny as a twig and seems to play pretty well. I just don't see what your basing it being a problem off of.
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It's depressing watching other teams with elite talent make it look so easy, yet the Steelers make it look like they don't even practice. It would be one thing if we didn't have a franchise QB and weapons to match like say...the Broncos.

This team has the personnel, they just have an OC that has no idea how to use them. 3 teams average over 30 pts. a game, and another 29, yet the Steelers only managed to score 30 pts. in 3 games.The 3 games Ben has played since his injury, the Steelers have scored 30 pts. combined. Pretty pathetic. Meanwhile, the Packers sit Aaron Rodgers, and their backup puts up 45 pts. with almost 500 yds and 6 tds. COACHING!!! Hell, teams with lesser personnel average more ppg the Steelers.

Hell, even the Ravens with their "worse the Arians" dummy offensive coordinator avergae 3 1/2 pts. more than the Steelers, and that's with Joe Flacco at QB, and a maybe slighty above average receivers. The 49ers with Alex Smith average 3 1/2 more pts than the Steelers. The Raiders, Bengals, Vikings and Dolphins average more pts. than the Steelers. Two of those teams have rookie QBs, a couple have no WRS, and none of them have the Steelers overall talent on offense. That's pretty awful.

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I don't hate Arians or even really dislike the guy either but it may be time for a change. It's understandable that Ben likes the guy. I think he's the only coach on the offense that has been here Ben's whole career. and Arians is responsible by and large for Ben having a lot of freedom on the field too to make his own decisions.
Whiz was OC for Ben's first 3 seasons.

But, I do agree, Ben is too emotionally attached to see that a change is definitely needed.

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