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Old 01-09-2012, 01:14 PM   #21
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The refs did not lose this game for the Steelers. The refs KEPT THEM IN THE GAME. Your touchdown drive was extended because the refs incorrectly called a backward pass an incomplete pass. If they got that call right on the field, it is Denver ball at around the 25. Instead, the drive turns into 7 points. Sure some holding calls were missed, but they were missed both ways. Literally about 3 face mask penalties were missed against the Steelers. All 15 yard first downs. Some would have been drive extending. Far and away the biggest call in this game and likely a minimum of a 10 point swing went in favor of the Steelers, and allowed them to reach overtime. If not for that, they aren't even in the game. Stop crying about the refs. They didn't lose this game. The Steelers did. They underestimated Tebow being able to hit open receivers and went with cover 0 man with 9-10 in the box. They didn't make the adjustments, and they lost the game.
Hey, go back to the beginning of the thread and actually read it this time.

Nobody claimed the refs were the reason the Steelers lost. This is a thread bitching about the general incompetence of the NFL refs.

Sounds like you had your excuses all lined up though should the Broncos have lost.
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Old 01-09-2012, 01:37 PM   #22
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Hey, go back to the beginning of the thread and actually read it this time.

Nobody claimed the refs were the reason the Steelers lost. This is a thread bitching about the general incompetence of the NFL refs.

Sounds like you had your excuses all lined up though should the Broncos have lost.
LOL...sure did...I'm sure he's been cutting & pasting that post into Steelers boards all day.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:45 PM   #23
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The refs did not lose this game for the Steelers. The refs KEPT THEM IN THE GAME. Your touchdown drive was extended because the refs incorrectly called a backward pass an incomplete pass. If they got that call right on the field, it is Denver ball at around the 25. Instead, the drive turns into 7 points. Sure some holding calls were missed, but they were missed both ways. Literally about 3 face mask penalties were missed against the Steelers. All 15 yard first downs. Some would have been drive extending. Far and away the biggest call in this game and likely a minimum of a 10 point swing went in favor of the Steelers, and allowed them to reach overtime. If not for that, they aren't even in the game. Stop crying about the refs. They didn't lose this game. The Steelers did. They underestimated Tebow being able to hit open receivers and went with cover 0 man with 9-10 in the box. They didn't make the adjustments, and they lost the game.
When you can find ONE instance of anything you are spouting, come back...until then GTFO ass fan.
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Old 01-09-2012, 02:52 PM   #24
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No he's not. His style (running low to the ground) when he tries to go around the DE makes it look like he's held, but he's not. I watched very carefully last night and there was no holding.
Quit fooling yourself, he got dragged from behind by his jersey once last night and it wasn't called. Has nothing to do with how low he is, when a guy is blocking you by any means while behind you, it's either going to be a hold or a block in the back. Don't base it off of one game though, this game he was held much less than normally even.
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The refs didn't lose the game for us on their own but they sure put us at a disadvantage. I will admit that absolutely sickening bubble screen we keep running was a fumble and that actually helped us, but for the better part of the year, much like this game, the refs have kept other teams in games and stunted drives for us. We only commit about 50% of the penalties we are called for and we can't get a single flag when our DB's get pushed off by WR's and when Harrison is held every play. Some may disagree, but the refs hurt us this year with their bias and/or ignorance. We had plenty of chances to succeed this game and many others, in spite of the refs, some games we did and some we did not, but we shouldn't have to win in spite of the league. I feel like the Steelers are singled out above anybody else, but when I watch other teams play, most of the calls are so bad that it's hard to not just assume that they are completely incompetent. What is irritating to me is that, as mentioned, they don't throw flags until opposing players and opposing crowds call for them, they make the wrong calls on OBVIOUS plays, they will ignore something all game and then throw a flag for the same thing in the most crucial times, yet NOBODY in the league, nobody in any teams ownership, says "Hey we need new refs". Now it's not possible for the entire league and all the owners and FO to not see this stuff, so what does that tell you?
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Sounds like you had your excuses all lined up though should the Broncos have lost.
And not the least bit surprising, coming from a Ravens fan: http://forums.steelersfever.com/show...267#post982267
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Quit fooling yourself, he got dragged from behind by his jersey once last night and it wasn't called. Has nothing to do with how low he is, when a guy is blocking you by any means while behind you, it's either going to be a hold or a block in the back. Don't base it off of one game though, this game he was held much less than normally even.
Maybe I missed one instance where he was dragged by his jersey but I thought I watched him on every play at the line of scrimmage yesterday. When he runs outside the OT, his low posture with his inside shoulder much lower than the outside makes you think that he's being held but that's his style.
I agree that he's been held many times without getting a call this season but yesterday was the cleanest I've seen an OL play him.
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anyone see the article in the Denver post.com? The bronco's last play should not have counted because of a blatant illegal formation.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...%3A+Broncos%29
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interesting. I'm sure none of the "big time" sports media shows will report on this.

They would only call that a penalty if the Steelers executed it. "Leaping" anyone??
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The refs did not lose this game for the Steelers. The refs KEPT THEM IN THE GAME. Your touchdown drive was extended because the refs incorrectly called a backward pass an incomplete pass. If they got that call right on the field, it is Denver ball at around the 25. Instead, the drive turns into 7 points. Sure some holding calls were missed, but they were missed both ways. Literally about 3 face mask penalties were missed against the Steelers. All 15 yard first downs. Some would have been drive extending. Far and away the biggest call in this game and likely a minimum of a 10 point swing went in favor of the Steelers, and allowed them to reach overtime. If not for that, they aren't even in the game. Stop crying about the refs. They didn't lose this game. The Steelers did. They underestimated Tebow being able to hit open receivers and went with cover 0 man with 9-10 in the box. They didn't make the adjustments, and they lost the game.
I agree that the correct call would have been a reverse lateral, but once the whistle blew before there was clear possession and knowing that if the Steelers even breathed in the direction of an opponent after the whistle for the last two years they got flagged, fined and publicly ridiculed, how do you make it right? You don't. It was a legitimately incorrect call on the field that because of the clear whistle before change of possession could not be overturned on the replay. 90% of the time that works against the Steelers, and I was surprised the replay official actually called it straight. But don't forget the offensive pass interference that Ike Taylor wound up somehow getting charged with to extend a Denver drive, and it was offensive pass interference; Taylor was the only one even looking at the ball, let alone playing it.
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