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Old 01-15-2012, 01:35 AM   #1
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Default It IS the Offense

I'll make this short and sweet....

We could hardly score against teams that we should have blown out this year.

Our Defense was Number 1 statistically despite the fact that the Offense couldn't score, turned the ball over and put the #1 defense on the field a ridiculous number of times this year.

Our Offense was outscored 20 to 0 in the second half of the Denver playoff game and only managed 38 yards.

The Offense held the ball longer than Denver but, we still could not score enough to win.

We managed 6.8 ypc compare to Denver's 3.9. However, we only rush the ball 23 and passed 40 times.

The worst part is that this isn't just a one time thing. This is what you expect from an Arians offense. You don't get rid of the coordinator of an "old, slow" defense that still ended up on top of the pile. But how can you justify having so much talent on offense but looking totally out of sync almost every down?
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Old 01-15-2012, 04:51 AM   #2
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So Denver scores 20 points in the second quarter** (not half) and it's on the offense? C'mon. The offense also didn't let an 80 yard touchdown in new-rule overtime to lose the game.

IMO, the defensive schemes we used left us really susceptible in the passing game as we focussed too much on stopping the run. Our d-linemen didn't do a good job of clogging the pocket and we missed a few plays which should've resulted in sacks and likely 3 and outs. And that play on overtime where Ike Taylor gets all the blame - that should be more on the defensive scheme. They need a TD to win and you play the safety that close to the line of scrimmage??? Just wow I don't get that.
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:00 AM   #3
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Default Re: It IS the Offense

the defense played its worst game of the year against the worst QB in the NFL when we played Denver. as for our offense, Ben regressed this year just like Sanchez. he had a few good games early but didnt look as accurate and kept his eyes on one wr towards the end and thats why he had so many picks and so little TD's. we need a big WR and a new QB coach because Ben has way to much potential to have such a bad year. 21tds and 14int will cut it for a rookie but not a 2 time super bowl winning QB. Hell even Samchez threw 28tds this year
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:49 AM   #4
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So Denver scores 20 points in the second quarter** (not half) and it's on the offense? C'mon. The offense also didn't let an 80 yard touchdown in new-rule overtime to lose the game.

IMO, the defensive schemes we used left us really susceptible in the passing game as we focussed too much on stopping the run. Our d-linemen didn't do a good job of clogging the pocket and we missed a few plays which should've resulted in sacks and likely 3 and outs. And that play on overtime where Ike Taylor gets all the blame - that should be more on the defensive scheme. They need a TD to win and you play the safety that close to the line of scrimmage??? Just wow I don't get that.
You are right, to a point, the D didn't play well. However, we totally dominate the 1st Q, allow something like 10 yards, have the ball for something like 12 or 13 minutes and score 6 stinkin points. If we could actually score points the game wouldn't have been in doubt. Look at NE last night, how the offense played, we have better WR's, a very good TE and better backs (even with Redman) and can't score. NE forced Denver to play catch up, didn't let them hang around.
Our D had a horrible quarter and the OT TD was an awful defensive play call. But our last possession of regulation should have got us a FG. the defense did there job in the 4th and stopped the Denver O, gave the ball back to the offense with enough time to win the game, we marched down to the Denver 45 with 57 seconds and 1 timeout left. All we needed was 10-15 yards. The way Redman was running he likely would have gotten at least 10 yards on 2 or 3 carries. Plenty of time for that. But our brilliant OC (maybe Ben as well) decide to go for the home run ball. THAT MY FRIENDS IS ON THE OFFENCE. I am sick of every loss being blamed solely on the D. Sometimes , with the talent this offense has, they should be able to score more than 23 friggin points and carry us to a win.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:56 AM   #5
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Will over skill - every single time.

Our Steelers have been in the mind set that if they just show up - the "inferior" teams will be intimidated. Too much emphasis on past successes and this "brotherhood" thing they have going on. Time to move on and get a killer instinct once again - no matter what or who is at risk of losing a roster spot.

Unfortunately, that SB XLV loss WAS the last chance for a lot of those guys - and now its time to let go. They aren't going to get back to the SB with the current makeup of the team.

Yesterday's performance by the 49ers is what a hungry team should look like. I applaud the Rooney's patience, however, the offense M_U_S_T prove it belongs with the big boys or some major changes have to happen and fast. The way I see it - we have about another 4 to 5 seasons at best with Ben and you damn well better make the most of it. The door has closed on some guys - but IMHO - the window is also starting to close on Ben.
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:06 AM   #6
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You are right, to a point, the D didn't play well. However, we totally dominate the 1st Q, allow something like 10 yards, have the ball for something like 12 or 13 minutes and score 6 stinkin points. If we could actually score points the game wouldn't have been in doubt. Look at NE last night, how the offense played, we have better WR's, a very good TE and better backs (even with Redman) and can't score. NE forced Denver to play catch up, didn't let them hang around.
Our D had a horrible quarter and the OT TD was an awful defensive play call. But our last possession of regulation should have got us a FG. the defense did there job in the 4th and stopped the Denver O, gave the ball back to the offense with enough time to win the game, we marched down to the Denver 45 with 57 seconds and 1 timeout left. All we needed was 10-15 yards. The way Redman was running he likely would have gotten at least 10 yards on 2 or 3 carries. Plenty of time for that. But our brilliant OC (maybe Ben as well) decide to go for the home run ball. THAT MY FRIENDS IS ON THE OFFENCE. I am sick of every loss being blamed solely on the D. Sometimes , with the talent this offense has, they should be able to score more than 23 friggin points and carry us to a win.


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It's hard not to agree with most of the above.

This whole last season, basically, our Offense just could NOT put up the points.
The decision to play a very injured/crippled Ben since that 49'ers game to the end of our play-off run, (except for the Rams game) was another "nail" in our coffin.
Again, that bonehead health-decision was on Tomlin and Ariens - our Offensive Co-ord.
Of course it IS the Offense. and the first one to go should be Ariens' !
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The way I see it - we have about another 4 to 5 seasons at best with Ben and you damn well better make the most of it. The door has closed on some guys - but IMHO - the window is also starting to close on Ben.
I don't see in Ben what I see in Brady, Brees, Rodgers or Peyton, sorry. Ben's in the same league as Eli Manning, Flacco, Sanchez and Rivers.
The first 4 have something else that Ben and the 3 others don't have. Maybe if Ben was in better physical shape, it would be a step in the right direction? This should be easier than ask him to read defenses faster and to make better decisions.

As for our OC, it's hopeless. This bum should be fired NOW.
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I don't see in Ben what I see in Brady, Brees, Rodgers or Peyton, sorry. Ben's in the same league as Eli Manning, Flacco, Sanchez and Rivers.
The first 4 have something else that Ben and the 3 others don't have. Maybe if Ben was in better physical shape, it would be a step in the right direction? This should be easier than ask him to read defenses faster and to make better decisions.

As for our OC, it's hopeless. This bum should be fired NOW.
Ben Also does not Have a Line Like Brady Are Rogers and Brees does.. did you watch that game between the pats and denver??? Brady never hardly got hit if ben takes a 3 step back he already got slamed to the ground...theres a differents if you have an o-line that protects your QB just think if Brady are Bress had the Steelers o-line they would not be as great cause look what happen to Brees in the 49er game he did not look to good when someone was in his face the whole game.
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Ben Also does not Have a Line Like Brady Are Rogers and Brees does.. did you watch that game between the pats and denver??? Brady never hardly got hit if ben takes a 3 step back he already got slamed to the ground...theres a differents if you have an o-line that protects your QB just think if Brady are Bress had the Steelers o-line they would not be as great cause look what happen to Brees in the 49er game he did not look to good when someone was in his face the whole game.
And yet, he still managed to put up 30+ points, and that's in spite of turning the ball over 5 times. The one game this season when the Steelers D actually got multiple TOs (4)against the Chiefs, the offense again struggled to score 13 pts. This offense stinks. Period. And it starts with the guy calling the shots.

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Didn't the broncos had 2 sacks with just a 3 man rush twice in that game ?
Tomilin needs to step in, ben is holding the ball too long. i rather waste a down
by throwing it away than getting sack losing crucial yardage.Tomlin should have
step in at the half of that bronco game tell DL his game plan scrap it.. It's all on
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