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Old 01-25-2012, 05:24 PM   #21
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Bradshaw just made really bad decisions. He felt like he could throw into any window, and if there was no window, he figured Swanny or Stallworth would make the play.
I think Bradshaw would like to get one for his thumb.
He mellowed enough to do the OC job.
The OC only has to design the offensive plays, and coach it to precision.
It is a shame that we let so many homegrown guys play elsewhere and not even use their talent after their playing days. I think Dorsett would make a great RB coach because he played in a complicated offense under Landry. Marino is a homeboy without a ring, he could coach QB and get a ring as a coach.
Joe Greene could teach a young D lineman a thing or two.

Guys who never played the NFL game can draw X's and O's, but the effort required to win is a mystery unbtil you climbed that mountain. thats why there are lots of mountain climbers, but few can talk about the view from atop everest.

Bradshaw isn't rich by anyones standard. I've heard that he is always struggling financially. He might make 25K a week for 20 weeks for Fox, but I think he would be worth paying twice that as an OC. He would surely like one for the thumb.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:44 PM   #22
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Bradshaw has a brain, and never minded handing the ball off. Yeah, he loved to throw the ball, but he learned to be a team player, and was all about the win. He actually took hits in the stats to win games, and was happy to do it for the "W." You can't get any further from BR in philosophy and still be talking about football. Aside from preferring to throw the ball, and their toughness, they don't have anything else in common. Bradshaw had earned the right to keep his inflated ego and learned humility, BR got graduate's track in humility and kept his ego.
I can't agree.

Bradshaw often ran the ball himself and almost always went head-first into defenders

So does Ben.

Bradshaw would often scramble to the last possible moment looking for an open receiver

So deos Ben.

Bradshaw often took a pounding in the pocket waiting for just the right moment to let the ball go

So does Ben

The only difference I see (besides the long ball) is that Bradshaw called most of his own plays and because he did, he didn't have to feature himself all the time because he knew that in the course of a game he'd get his chances. Ben only calls plays himself in the hurry-up and yes, his ego tends to put passing first over running. But I'd bet that if Ben called the plays for an entire game, he'd hand the ball off a lot more than you'd think, for the same reasons Bradshaw did.

Let's not forget that Bradshaw rode the pine quite a bit in his early years mainly because he didn't behave himself either and it was only after a few seasons that Noll began to trust him enough to let him handle things.

One of the first things I thought to myself when I first saw Ben play was how much like Bradshaw he seemed and I still feel that way. Ben has some growing up to do but like I've always said, if he was 3-inches shorter and wore a number 12, it would be hard to tell the difference between him and Bradshaw.

In many ways, Ben is a throwback. I think if he played in the era when teams were governed by a single head coach and the league wasn't so wrapped up in "Coordinators" and he was allowed to call his own game and learn from his mistakes, he would have thrived just as Bradshaw did. Coordinators are fine for QB's that fit a certain mold but for guys like Ben, it's difficult if not impossible for anyone to really get inside his head and know what's really going on to the point where they can manage him.

I think it would be interesting to see what would happen if they let go of the reins and allowed Ben to call his own game.
I'd bet that it would work out a lot better than anyone might think.
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Old 01-25-2012, 05:56 PM   #23
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i'm not quite that old, but i've read alot....and i do know that Terry was pretty much called the dumbest idiot so much it was relentless. By fans, media, and opposing players alike.
You think Ben gets called for making mistakes?? It's nothing compared to what Bradshaw went through.
I agree and if Ben and Terry somehow traded time eras I believe Terry would be crucified on these boards (at least the years we did not win a SuperBowl)
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:41 PM   #24
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Bradshaw had someone to push him. He was second string in '74 behind Joe Gilliam until being named the starter. Ben has total security. TB was a gunslinger.

OOps, I forgot about the work stoppage. Thats why he wasn't starting that season. But TB still was a fearless passer.

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There are a few people around here that can remember Terry Bradshaw making you cry. Either tears of joy or grief. Bradshaw had a deep abiding love for throwing into double and triple coverage. I think he was all about having fun and taking chances out there. Winning and losing was never life and dath for him.

I think that Terry had a rocky relationship with Steeler fans because we were life and death and he wasn't. We had a failure to communicate.

Over the years, we both learned lessons.

Bradshaw stayed close to the game. His football mind evolved with the game.

I think it would be great if Bradshaw would come back to the Burg as an OC for about 5 years, and allow us to build a relationship with him that we never had.

Bradshaw could design an offense that used Bens strengths. Brad is getting old. Time is running out on him and us. It is a shame that the Bradshaw/ Steeler fan relationship was so bitter for so long.

If I was Mr.Rooney, I would ask Chuck Noll to go with him to talk to Bradshaw about becoming the new OC, and offer him 10 million over 5 years.

I think Bradshaw would go for it. In a lot of ways, it would be a good thing.

Bradshaw would do a good job. He has a good feel for the game.

But then, if I was Mr. Rooney, i would ask Dorsett or Harris to be the running back coach, and Marino to be the QB coach, Joe Green to be the D line coach, and ...........I wonder if Lynn Swann would like to coach. And what Greg Lloyd, Mel Blount, Lambert?

Are great players lousy coachs, or are our owners lousy owners?
this is a joke thread right?

do you even know what condition chuck noll is in nowadays? it isnt good.

why dont we just hire joe paterno to be OC? he's currently unemployed.

terry has about as much business coaching as he does cattle ranching. he has finally maximized his earning potential and his business sense has reached its peak. he gets paid more than 2 mil/year for nothing more than cracking jokes about himself, being silly and talking some ball.

maybe we should just hire metallica and lady gaga to exclusively highlight 8 home game half time shows. i bet we could affor 4 million for that.

jack lelane can be our strength and conditioning coach.

maybe mr rogers can lead the team in pre-game prayers.

we should also buy the elephant mans corpse at auction to display besides the 6 lombardi trophies for inspiration.
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this is a joke thread right?

do you even know what condition chuck noll is in nowadays? it isnt good.

why dont we just hire joe paterno to be OC? he's currently unemployed.

terry has about as much business coaching as he does cattle ranching. he has finally maximized his earning potential and his business sense has reached its peak. he gets paid more than 2 mil/year for nothing more than cracking jokes about himself, being silly and talking some ball.

maybe we should just hire metallica and lady gaga to exclusively highlight 8 home game half time shows. i bet we could affor 4 million for that.

jack lelane can be our strength and conditioning coach.

maybe mr rogers can lead the team in pre-game prayers.

we should also buy the elephant mans corpse at auction to display besides the 6 lombardi trophies for inspiration.
I was thinking strength and conditioning would go to the Cirque du Soleil folks. Have you seen those people???? As for Bradshaw, I don't think he could even spell "OC" if you spotted him the... oh, wait...
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I doubt Terry would want to leave his nekid room long enough.
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Can't we all just get along? Since we are Steelers fans....all be it some dumb ones. Bradshaw was a great QB and is amusing on Fox. As far as one of the comments regarding former Steelers as coaches. Joe Greene (yes Mean Joe) has been coaching in the league for years and at one point many fans thought he would be the next head coach after Noll retired, but it ended up being this guy named Cowher that noone had heard of and Steelers nation went ape shit!
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Terry's one crazy bastard but I love the guy. No doubt one of the best. Coach though? Maybe. Just don't see it
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