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Old 07-05-2006, 01:12 PM   #11
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Default Re: Scoring a Safety on a Try for 1 point

A fumble out of the end zone doesn't work. Think about it - all you need to do is fumble out of the end zone - that could happen on purpose all the time to get the safety.
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Old 07-05-2006, 01:26 PM   #12
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Nope. If the defense gains position on a Try - the ball in dead and no safety. Getting warm though.
My last guess is the defense gains posession of the ball in the endzone along with a personal foul/unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on the offense??
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:00 PM   #14
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One last shot.

Whenever the defense causes the ball to be dead/recovers the ball in their own end zone on a two point try the offense is awarded one point???
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:16 PM   #15
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Nope. If the defense gains position on a Try - the ball in dead and no safety. Getting warm though.
i thought the rule was that the defense could return a "try" for 2 points the other way.
for example if a team was going for 2 and it was fumbled or intercepted and returned it was 2 points the other way. unless by try you mean kick.


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if the ball is intercepted in the field of play, on the try, by team A and fumbled into the endzone and recovered by team A it is a safety for the other team, 1 point.
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both good tries but not correct.

The "try" is the technical term for any play after a touchdown. There are 3 ways for offense to score on a try. Touchdown (2pts), Kick (1pt) and safety (1pt).

In response to latest guesses:

1. By rule the defense can never ever receive points on a try.

2. as soon as it is intercepted it is a dead ball. The defense can not run the other way for points.

3., Ambridge - when the ball is dead - it is dead. Recovery by defense is a dead ball.

Ok here is a scenerio. The ball is tossed backward to a running back, the running back has control but subsequently fumbles the ball on the way to the end zone. The defensive player swipes at the loose ball causing the ball to go out of bounds through the endzone. 1 point awarded as a safety to the offense because the defensive error in hitting a loose ball out of bounds through the endzone on a Try. The key is the defensive play making the swipe and causing the ball to go out through the endzone - if the offensive player creates the impedence then the play is dead - no points.

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LOL...never would have thought of that.
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Under NFL rules, an unsuccessful try-for-point is dead if kicked, but while attempting a two-point try, it is possible for a safety to be ruled if the defensive team forces the ball back into their own end zone and they recover. One point would be awarded, instead of the two points that are normally awarded for safeties.

OK, I found this and was basing my last answer off of it.
Maybe I should have used the word "Downed" instead of "Dead".
Did I misinterpret??
Some of the rulebook verbage can get a little confusing.

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http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Sports/N...ules-9719.html


OK, here is the scoop. I could not find anywhere in the rules that says the ball is dead on a turnover. The ball is not dead when intercepted or a fumble is recovered. Here is the rule and the situation between Texas A&M and The University of Texas just as i have stated in my previous answer.

During an extra point try, Team A throws a forward pass which is intercepted by B3 at his own 2 yard line as his momentum is carrying him towards his own goal line. After making the catch, B3 fumbles the ball. The ball hits the ground at Team B's 1 yard line and then bounces into the end zone, where it is downed by a Team B player. What is the ruling and how many points (if any) are scored?


safety, 1 point for Team A. Rules 8-1-1, 8-5-1-a, and 8-7, and Approved Ruling 8-5-1-XI. This is really tricky, but the answer is correct according to the Approved Ruling cited above. Had B3's momentum carried him into the end zone before he fumbled, the ruling would have been a touchback for Team B because Team A would have been responsible for the ball being behind the goal line. However, since the ball was fumbled in front of the goal line, Team B is deemed to be responsible for the ball being behind its goal line when it was downed by a player of its own team. This situation meets the definition of a safety, and a safety scored on an extra point try is worth 1 point. A very similar situation ocurred in the 2004 University of Texas v. Texas A&M game, though instead of an intercepted forward pass, a Texas A&M player (Team B) recovered a blocked field goal attempt on the try. After recovering the ball, the player fumbled, the ball rolled into the endzone, and was downed by another A&M player, resulting in a 1 point safety for UT.
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both good tries but not correct.

The "try" is the technical term for any play after a touchdown. There are 3 ways for offense to score on a try. Touchdown (2pts), Kick (1pt) and safety (1pt).

In response to latest guesses:

1. By rule the defense can never ever receive points on a try.

2. as soon as it is intercepted it is a dead ball. The defense can not run the other way for points.

3., Ambridge - when the ball is dead - it is dead. Recovery by defense is a dead ball.
please show me the specific rule because that is not what i have heard.
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