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Old 02-09-2012, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

Seems like getting under the cap has been pretty easy so far.

We havent even touched

Ward 3mill savings with taking a cut
Kemo 3.58mill
Farrior 2.8mill
Foote 3mill
Hampton 5.89 mill
smith 2.89mill
scott 2.7 mill

Almost 23mill with the above


Easily shift around another 15mill with the 3 below
Troy
Harrison
Ben

After getting under the cap, that leaves 28million to sign 11 players.
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Old 02-09-2012, 06:57 PM   #2
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Default Re: 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

no... were 15 mil under the cap because we re-did woodley and timmons' contracts.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:07 PM   #3
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Default Re: 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

Yeah, what Tony said. We restructured Timmon's and Woodley's contract's in order to improve the cap.
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Old 02-09-2012, 07:44 PM   #4
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Default Re: 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

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After getting under the cap, that leaves 28million to sign 11 players.

Not quite. After the Timmons and Woodley restructure, we free up about 15 mil total including the prior cuts. Right now we have about 45 guys on our active roster under contract. Still assuming the cap is 125(This has not yet been determined), we still need to cut around 10 mil. We have like a dozen free agents that are up, one of which is Wallace. That means with the 45 guys still under live contracts, we need to free another 10 mil. We then need to free up enough to sign whoever is on the list of a dozen FA's we want to keep. We'll probably then be left needing to have enough money left to get us back up to a full roster on top of the FA's we retain.

Anyone we cut in step A above will also need to be replaced. For example, if you were to cut Hampton and draft a NT in the first round, you're not really saving all of Hampton's cap hit. Obviously for some positions we already have a replacement on hand, but we will be taking on more guys in the draft.

It's not the end of the world, but it's still a poor position to be in. I found a list of 2012 cap values for the teams today, and we're the worst cap offenders right now, by a huge 17 mil lead. Some silly decisions are coming back to haunt us(Like owing a 2012 cap hit to Randel El...really?).

Once the 2012 cap is finalized we'll likely get a better idea as it will be possible to actually crunch the numbers. Right now everyone is speculating the cap will be 125, but really it could be as low as 120. Will be a bit before the dust clears.
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Default Re: 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

It's going to be a shit process, but it's not the end of the world, as you said.
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Default Re: 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

they cut 11mill in timmons and woodley, chopped Macf and battle, thats 15million. Cut 23million more with the dead weight I listed, thats 38million. Get 3 or 4 others to restructure an additional 15million. That leaves us 28mill for 11 players, if the cap is 125million.

That is what I listed.

Now, if they only listen, lol See how easy it is, lol
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Cut 23million more with the dead weight I listed, thats 38million.

That is kind of my point. if we outright cut the guys on your cut list, we now need to sign the 11 FA's PLUS replacements for the guys we just cut. For every guy we cut from the current roster to free space, we have to replace him with someone else, who will need paid.

So there's a trick to finding the balance, which is why we hired our "Cap Guru".
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Default Re: 15mill trimmed with only 2 dead weight players?

Smith is gone.

Hampton and Farrior are likely on their way out as well, not to mention there is still plenty of dead weight on the roster.
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Smith is gone.

Hampton and Farrior are likely on their way out as well, not to mention there is still plenty of dead weight on the roster.
I think Hampton and Ward will take a pay cut
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Once the 2012 cap is finalized we'll likely get a better idea as it will be possible to actually crunch the numbers. Right now everyone is speculating the cap will be 125, but really it could be as low as 120. Will be a bit before the dust clears.
it has already been determined that the cap will stay the same for 2012 as it was in 2011.

no increase.
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