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Keep Him and Pay the money 17 51.52%
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:30 AM   #491
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Default Re: Madden: Wallace wants to be a star, not a Steeler

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Another brilliant Madden snoozer......

Frankly, I don't worship at the alter of any man. As for our young money crew, and I'll add Pouncey and Gillbert to this list, these guys are going to be the core of this team going forward. Deal with it. They may be brash, lacking in terms of social , & public relation skills, but those demerits are more than ofset by talent.

Where has Madden been anyway. This sort of thing has been going on since the gladiators of Rome.
No one wants, likes, or should just "deal with" Pouncey saying stuff like "look at me, i'm a millionaire, and you (the fan) are a pathetic loser.
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Old 03-27-2012, 08:37 AM   #492
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I still think he's gone soon. All the "B" teams are possibilities: Bengals, Broncos, Bears, Bills, Browns and even the Buccaneers. They all have the cap space for it. I'd include the Redskins, but I'm not sure they can sign a tendered player when they no longer own their natural 1st round pick.
I live in Chicago right now and word around here for the cap money is addressing other needs than WR. Lots of needs. Plus they already signed Marshall for big money, they might go get one in the draft or sign a cheap FA. Likely won't be Chicago.
The Browns are going to address their defense more, and look at QB possibilities still and aren't in a position right now to sign a star WR, for one reason being that the QB position is still a big question mark. Especially one that would cost them as much as the moon and the stars.

Wallace will play in Pittsburgh this year...then next year, he'll sign a FA contract with someone else.
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Default Re: Madden: Wallace wants to be a star, not a Steeler

I think Greg Lloyd's tee shirt said it best, " I wasn't hired for my disposition".

Hey, I understand where you are coming from, and you do make a point about Pouncey's injury issues. Truth be told, high ankle sprains do not heal in a couple of weeks. Sometime they never heal. Pounce played all of last year on a bum ankle, them messed up the other one, and couldn't quite go at the end. It wasn't for a lack of trying. IMO, the guy played his guts out.

Going back to the issue of compensation vs loyalty, let me ask you a question. If you knew of people at other firms, doing exactly what you do job wise, were making millions more than you are, how would that effect your loyalty? If the owner of one of those other firms stopped by your house and offered you one of those positions, which would provide lifetime security not only for, you, your immediate family, but your extended family as well. Would you not trip getting a pen to sign?

Loyalty is a two way street. In order for an employee to have loyalty to his firm, the firm must express loyalty to it's employee. As for the case of Wallace, what loyalty are the Steelers showing him to ofset the potential millions he could be earning elsewhere?

Granted as a fan, we are more emotionaly involved, very loyal towards our team. But sometimes our loyalty towards the team, and players, doesn't register at the same level as the guys that only have a very short window to make their money.
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Default Re: Madden: Wallace wants to be a star, not a Steeler

I dont understand where Wallace thinks hes worth Larry Fits payday. He hasnt really proved himself yet. Like the article says he seemed to drop off later in the season.
Try proving yourself first instead of thinking your the greatest and wanting the big payday, then maybe you can take it from there.
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I love Pouncey's play but he is exactly the type to want to be the highest paid center maybe even Offensive Lineman of all time. He will be a problem to sign.
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I think Greg Lloyd's tee shirt said it best, " I wasn't hired for my disposition".

Hey, I understand where you are coming from, and you do make a point about Pouncey's injury issues. Truth be told, high ankle sprains do not heal in a couple of weeks. Sometime they never heal. Pounce played all of last year on a bum ankle, them messed up the other one, and couldn't quite go at the end. It wasn't for a lack of trying. IMO, the guy played his guts out.

Going back to the issue of compensation vs loyalty, let me ask you a question. If you knew of people at other firms, doing exactly what you do job wise, were making millions more than you are, how would that effect your loyalty? If the owner of one of those other firms stopped by your house and offered you one of those positions, which would provide lifetime security not only for, you, your immediate family, but your extended family as well. Would you not trip getting a pen to sign?

Loyalty is a two way street. In order for an employee to have loyalty to his firm, the firm must express loyalty to it's employee. As for the case of Wallace, what loyalty are the Steelers showing him to ofset the potential millions he could be earning elsewhere?

Granted as a fan, we are more emotionaly involved, very loyal towards our team. But sometimes our loyalty towards the team, and players, doesn't register at the same level as the guys that only have a very short window to make their money.
^^^This!! I always have to check myself because I get to emotionally involved. At the end of the day, being a player is a job like I have a job and you have a job. I am not too proud to say that I will do almost anything to help my career and increase my pay. I can't expect players to be exceptions to the rule. Wallace has every right to pursue a big pay day. I hope we can retain him without sacrificing too much, but if not.. it's part of the game
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Well put VaDave!

I myself had a "I'm a Steeler fan, not a fan of the players" moment at camp at Latrobe a few years ago. We were wanting to get autographs from the usuals: Big Ben, Bettis, Harrison, Ward, Troy, etc, but the crowds were just ticking me off. They weren't rude or anything, quite the opposite, but there was just so many people and they were getting in line for autographs while the team was still drilling. Finally, I smiled and turned to my wife "Screw this. Let's go watch the team drill, I was a Steeler fan before these players were born and will be still be a fan when they are gone..."

Still would like to have gotten some autographs for the kids, but really didn't miss it..
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I think Greg Lloyd's tee shirt said it best, " I wasn't hired for my disposition".

Hey, I understand where you are coming from, and you do make a point about Pouncey's injury issues. Truth be told, high ankle sprains do not heal in a couple of weeks. Sometime they never heal. Pounce played all of last year on a bum ankle, them messed up the other one, and couldn't quite go at the end. It wasn't for a lack of trying. IMO, the guy played his guts out.

Going back to the issue of compensation vs loyalty, let me ask you a question. If you knew of people at other firms, doing exactly what you do job wise, were making millions more than you are, how would that effect your loyalty? If the owner of one of those other firms stopped by your house and offered you one of those positions, which would provide lifetime security not only for, you, your immediate family, but your extended family as well. Would you not trip getting a pen to sign?

Loyalty is a two way street. In order for an employee to have loyalty to his firm, the firm must express loyalty to it's employee. As for the case of Wallace, what loyalty are the Steelers showing him to ofset the potential millions he could be earning elsewhere?

Granted as a fan, we are more emotionaly involved, very loyal towards our team. But sometimes our loyalty towards the team, and players, doesn't register at the same level as the guys that only have a very short window to make their money.

Thats why i said Wallace leave's here next year. No way he stays. I don't have a problem with it....but he's gone.
As far as Pouncey, i like his play....i just don't like "the guy"
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Thats why i said Wallace leave's here next year. No way he stays. I don't have a problem with it....but he's gone.
As far as Pouncey, i like his play....i just don't like "the guy"
You're probably right, but I do have a problem with Wallace leaving. We have had a revolving door at the WR position for over ten years now (excluding HInes) and that's not such a good thing. We're gonna have to pony up some serious cash for that position much sooner than later.

Some want to wait and pay Brown, whom I don't think is as good as Wallace nor would he demand that the oposing D pay special attention to him. Don't get me wrong, I like Brown but his success is a direct by product of Wallace's being on the same side of the ball.
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I dont understand where Wallace thinks hes worth Larry Fits payday. He hasnt really proved himself yet. Like the article says he seemed to drop off later in the season.
Try proving yourself first instead of thinking your the greatest and wanting the big payday, then maybe you can take it from there.
Wallace also doesn't understand. That's why he has denied that rumor immediately through twitter.
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