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Old 04-16-2012, 11:48 PM   #11
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Default Re: Is our linebacking core right now a weakness?

our starting 4 are solid. worilds is pretty good for what i've seen so far. jury is out on sylvester.

I'll say no. It's not a weakness if you can say all your starters are solid. Now to offensive line...

i wouldn't sleep on ivy just because he's undrafted. our last undrafted backer that saw starting time was... james harrison. I'd say he turned out pretty good?
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Old 04-17-2012, 07:30 AM   #12
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Default Re: Is our linebacking core right now a weakness?

Right now is our Starting LB crew a weakness? No.

Will it be someday soon? Absolutely Yes.

The Steelers looking at so many OLB prospects in pre-draft visits tells me they are not happy with who is behind Harrison and Woodley and why would they be? As a coach we use to hate around here Brian Billick said recently about a player's potential, "Your potential is going to get me fired." Potential is nothing. Show me a flash on the field, show me a flash in a preseason game.

Believe me the Steelers don't sit around and say Sylvester is ready to go, or Morty Ivy will be back this year problem solved. They will draft a ILB and OLB in this year's draft because Foote and Harrison are old and Sylvester and Worilds haven't proven anything yet.

Perhaps another question would be, "Will the Steelers' linebackers be a weakness after the draft?"
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Old 04-17-2012, 01:20 PM   #13
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Default Re: Is our linebacking core right now a weakness?

Following the bye week, Jason Worilds started 5 of the last 6 games. He had 3 sacks, a forced fumble, and 27 tackles in those games. Including a 9 tackle, 2 sack, 1 forced fumble games against the Browns. That's more than just potential.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:35 PM   #14
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Default Re: Is our linebacking core right now a weakness?

Some very good points. I think I have concerns with Harrison's health. back surgery, was injured for most of 2010, eye injury in 2011. Worlids was ok but couldnt stay on the field. We have too many "ifs" for potential starters and back ups.

IF Timmons lives up to his 1.15 draft bill
IF we can draft someone to replace Farrior
IF Sylvestor can beat out Foote
IF Harrison can stary healthy
IF it was just a fluke injury for Woodley
IF Worlids continues to progress

All teams have IFS, but do they have them at a position once considered the strength? I do not feel our LB corps is a team strength.
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Old 04-17-2012, 03:36 PM   #15
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I "take good care of my body"-- I am 35, and I feel a difference between when I was 25 and being 35, and I am not doing OTAs, practice reps, drills, and actually playing the games. Did you see Harrison this year? A bad back is a common enough problem for those of us that are in the twighlight years of an NFL career.... I think Harrison is 35 now-- you think he is going to be playing until he is 39 really?!?!



Worilds was NOT injured until later in the season. Other than that, he has yet to impress when on the field. Has he even notched a single sack yet? Chris Carter looked descent, but is still untested.



I must have missed that thread too-- I have yet to see Timmons make any splash plays in the 3 or 4 years I have been watching him-- unless you consider gettting beaten repeatedly by tight ends and bowled over by opposing runningbacks a "splash play". When he was moved to the outside (which is his native position-- we converted him to ILB), he became even more invisible.



Maybe.



Mortty who? Undrafted no-name is what our linebacker corps is going to be held up by?
Glad I am not alone with seeing the reality of this and our players.
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Glad I am not alone with seeing the reality of this and our players.


yeah, because james harrison IS 35 years old.
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Glad I am not alone with seeing the reality of this and our players.
Why do you post your thread titles in the form of questions instead of declarative statements when it's fairly obvious coming in you've already got your mind made up on the topic and nobody's going to change it? Not only that, but when the vast majority of respondents disagree with you, you get pissy about it. I'm failing to see the point here.
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Default Re: Is our linebacking core right now a weakness?

Just because the LB's are not (on paper) as elite as in years past, it does not make it a weakness.

OL is a weakness. It can, has been and will continue to be exploited to the disadvantage of the Steelers

However, nearly 1/2 the league would kill to have the Steelers LB corps.
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Following the bye week, Jason Worilds started 5 of the last 6 games. He had 3 sacks, a forced fumble, and 27 tackles in those games. Including a 9 tackle, 2 sack, 1 forced fumble games against the Browns. That's more than just potential.
This^. Worilds will replace Harrison when he retires.

Woodley and Timmons have a lot of years left, not even close to retiring. There's no way we will have LB issues any time soon, and we will likely pick up a LB or two in the draft this year, so no worries.
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Another thread got me looking at our LB corps. Since the 70's its been a strength, I am wondering now if its no longer a strength or is it a weakness.

Here is why:

1- Harrison's age
2- When we lost our starting OLBs last year we had no one who could step in and do anything. I didnt expect to get production like the starters but the fillers were non-exisistant.
3- Timmons has yet to live up to his first round expectations
4- Is Woodley's non-impact injury a start of something or a fluke?
5- No clear cut starter on the inside next to Timmons
6- No depth inside.

Not brewing with confidence but I am sure the front office will address this.
I don't see it. You have Timmons and Woodley in there prime. Harrison still has 3-5 years left. Foote is not that bad. Stevenson is just unproven not sure he can be the man but you have to give him a chance. Worilds played last year with a bunch of injuries so this year should be better. And I really liked what I saw in Carter. I think in a couple of years he will be suprising alot of people. Yes we need another ILB but I don't think we need to take one in the first round.
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