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Old 05-03-2012, 02:12 PM   #41
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Regular civllians commit suicide all the time....and we don't blame concussions. An athlete can have inner demons just like the rest of us can. They're not "holier than thou".

No one is saying that he might not have head trauma from his career. Even if he did, we'll likely NEVER know the cause. But the agenda-pushers were crawling out from under their rocks yesterday within a matter of hours. Thats what is making some people angry.
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To find out if he had CTE they need the brain. How long can they wait to ask for it? Do you think it keeps? "Regular civilians" commit suicide and the cause goes unknown. That doesn't mean there isn't a cause. The agenda pusher in this case, the doctor who is requesting access, has the agenda of scientific discovery and player safety. Which one angers you?
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is there a way to check for this CTE while alive?
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is there a way to check for this CTE while alive?
The patient would be alive at the start of the procedure but not by the end

Additional speculation is that Seau shot himself in the chest rather than in the head to preserve his brain tissue to be examined. Dave Duerson also took his life without shooting himself in the head. Duerson's brain tissue was examined and he was found to have suffered from CTE,.
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The agenda pusher in this case, the doctor who is requesting access, has the agenda of scientific discovery and player safety. Which one angers you?
I do not think anybody is against player safety and scientific discovery - it is using a personal tragedy to push an agenda (e.g. - people jumping on the Trayvon Martin tragedy with both feet to push an agenda before what actually occurred has been determined).

A medical professional who supports scientific discovery presumably should want to discover the facts before speculating on a diagnosis
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I do not think anybody is against player safety and scientific discovery - it is using a personal tragedy to push an agenda (e.g. - people jumping on the Trayvon Martin tragedy with both feet to push an agenda before what actually occurred has been determined).

A medical professional who supports scientific discovery presumably should want to discover the facts before speculating on a diagnosis
While at the same time making his case for access to the brain.
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The patient would be alive at the start of the procedure but not by the end

Additional speculation is that Seau shot himself in the chest rather than in the head to preserve his brain tissue to be examined. Dave Duerson also took his life without shooting himself in the head. Duerson's brain tissue was examined and he was found to have suffered from CTE,.
Maybe the girlfriend did it and the family is right that he was all sunshine and health.
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While at the same time making his case for access to the brain.

there is no way you, nor i, can get in his head and make that judgement. Thats pure speculation at best (and fueled like gasoline on a fire by the agenda-pushers). Tens of thousands of people have shot themselves through the heart.
I've read where people are actually trying to tell others what he was thinking. Thats BS. One of his ex-teammates i saw interviewed said it best.....that he would never let you think he was hurting in any way, he kept those things to himself.
Brain scans, no brain scans, whatever....no one will ever know what he was thinking or how depressed he may have been.
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To find out if he had CTE they need the brain. How long can they wait to ask for it? Do you think it keeps? "Regular civilians" commit suicide and the cause goes unknown. That doesn't mean there isn't a cause. The agenda pusher in this case, the doctor who is requesting access, has the agenda of scientific discovery and player safety. Which one angers you?

I hear what you're saying....but even if there is a brain injury of some sort...that doesn't mean its the absolute cause. He may just have been in a dark place....as so many others have been.
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there is no way you, nor i, can get in his head and make that judgement. Thats pure speculation at best (and fueled like gasoline on a fire by the agenda-pushers). Tens of thousands of people have shot themselves through the heart.
I've read where people are actually trying to tell others what he was thinking. Thats BS. One of his ex-teammates i saw interviewed said it best.....that he would never let you think he was hurting in any way, he kept those things to himself.
Brain scans, no brain scans, whatever....no one will ever know what he was thinking or how depressed he may have been.
Again, your knowledge of the science is lacking. If you had his brain cell for cell you would have shot yourself. There is no thought, no motivation, no decision outside of the reality of the electrochemical processes of the brain as possible within the physical structure remaining.
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Maybe the girlfriend did it and the family is right that he was all sunshine and health.
Except for that pesky driving his car off a cliff a couple years ago....
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