Stephen Hawking: Heaven is "a fairy story"

[SteelerEmpire]

Ok A-hole. Your the #1 scientist, so where's your "proff ". 'Definitive proff' that all scientists need before they make a statement ??? Like I thought, you don't have definitive proff. What a joke of an opinion here from such an "esteemed scientist "...

Article:

Physicist Stephen Hawking believes there is no afterlife, and that the concept of heaven is a "fairy story" for people who fear death.

LINK: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_1...ag=re1.channel

[theplatypus]

Oh noes Stephen Hawking has an opinion, a belief that's different than yours. Just a heads up you might want to look into just what a theoretical physicist does.

[Steelboy84]

Originally Posted by theplatypus

Oh noes Stephen Hawking has an opinion, a belief that's different than yours. Just a heads up you might want to look into just what a theoretical physicist does.

lmao

[SteelerEmpire]

Originally Posted by theplatypus

Oh noes Stephen Hawking has an opinion, a belief that's different than yours. Just a heads up you might want to look into just what a theoretical physicist does.

Lol. Yes I do... I have a degree in it... lol. I know that the concept of God is basically an "untestable" concept if your for proving it or disproving it. If a theory cannot be tested with experimentation or observation it's "outside" of science. We can only currently observe things and conduct experiments inside the universe. But God is said to have created the universe and therefore can exist outside of the universe. Since he's outside of the universe, he cannot be observed, and is therefore outside of physics as we know it. I'm familiar with the details of Hawkings particular theory here and it attempts to measure what cannot be measured.... but he makes a nice try though.

[ricardisimo]

I like that he put to rest once and for all this widely circulated theory from the religious folks that he was a believer. You can all stop with that nonsense now.

Where's his "proff"? Did you really just ask where his proof is? No... I mean, really? ?

Just curious: How do you know that god is outside of the universe?

[hicksfan]

Originally Posted by SteelerEmpire

Lol. Yes I do... I have a degree in it... lol. I know that the concept of God is basically an "untestable" concept if your for proving it or disproving it. If a theory cannot be tested with experimentation or observation it's "outside" of science. We can only currently observe things and conduct experiments inside the universe. But God is said to have created the universe and therefore can exist outside of the universe. Since he's outside of the universe, he cannot be observed, and is therefore outside of physics as we know it. I'm familiar with the details of Hawkings particular theory here and it attempts to measure what cannot be measured.... but he makes a nice try though.

how does that logic not apply to the flying spaghetti monster as well?

A God who kept tinkering with the universe was absurd; a God who interfered with human freedom and creativity was tyrant. If God is seen as a self in a world of his own, an ego that relates to a thought, a cause separate from its effect. he becomes a being, not Being itself. An omnipotent, all‐knowing tyrant is not so different from earthly dictators who make everything and everybody mere cogs in the machine which they controlled. An atheism that rejects such a God is amply justified. – Karen Armstrong


the burden of proof falls upon the believer. simple enough.

[BleedPurple]

Originally Posted by SteelerEmpire

Lol. Yes I do... I have a degree in it... lol. I know that the concept of God is basically an "untestable" concept if your for proving it or disproving it. If a theory cannot be tested with experimentation or observation it's "outside" of science. We can only currently observe things and conduct experiments inside the universe. But God is said to have created the universe and therefore can exist outside of the universe. Since he's outside of the universe, he cannot be observed, and is therefore outside of physics as we know it. I'm familiar with the details of Hawkings particular theory here and it attempts to measure what cannot be measured.... but he makes a nice try though.

Based on the way you write and the things you say, and that you think proff is a word (seriously, I thought you were making fun of a typo in the article, but I skimmed it and even googled "hawking proff" to no avail) even as a lowly engineer, I can see your degree in theoretical physics was obtained a) on the internet or b) at an all day workshop at the local hotel ballroom.

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by ricardisimo

I like that he put to rest once and for all this widely circulated theory from the religious folks that he was a believer. You can all stop with that nonsense now.

Where's his "proff"? Did you really just ask where his proof is? No... I mean, really? ?

Just curious: How do you know that god is outside of the universe?

the burning bush said so ...

[theplatypus]

Originally Posted by BleedPurple

Based on the way you write and the things you say, and that you think proff is a word (seriously, I thought you were making fun of a typo in the article, but I skimmed it and even googled "hawking proff" to no avail) even as a lowly engineer, I can see your degree in theoretical physics was obtained a) on the internet or b) at a an all day workshop at the local hotel ballroom.

ouch!

[ricardisimo]

Originally Posted by BleedPurple

Based on the way you write and the things you say, and that you think proff is a word (seriously, I thought you were making fun of a typo in the article, but I skimmed it and even googled "hawking proff" to no avail) even as a lowly engineer, I can see your degree in theoretical physics was obtained a) on the internet or b) at a an all day workshop at the local hotel ballroom.

Hey, English may or may not be his second language, he was in a hurry, whatever. Shit happens. I still want to know how he is able to posit as fact that god is "outside the universe", and therefore not observable.

Mind you, once he answers that question, we can tackle the question of whether or not Mr. Hawking himself believes that we can receive information from, or arrive at conclusions about things outside of our observable universe. That will be step two.