Plax 2.0

[83-Steelers-43]

Originally Posted by SteelersMongol

Could he (Holmes) have called Ben himself and said "I heard you called me, I don't see nothing on my message machine, but those damn kids must've deleted them all. But thanks for the concern anyways" something like that? You know, to save his and Ben's face.

Well he stated Ben never called him. Which is my point. Who knows what happened? "Coulda?" "Woulda?" "Shoulda?"

Then again I keep thinking to myself even if Ben did call him, "IT'S ONLY A PHONE CALL!!!". So what do I know?

It just amazes me that one could get so worked up over a phone call and a press conference. When the regular season comes around and if he starts becoming a trouble maker, then I will voice my final opinion on the kid. But some are chewing out the kid and pegging him as the next "Plax" when he hasn't even played a down of pro ball.

[SteelersMongol]

Originally Posted by 83-Steelers-43

Well he stated Ben never called him. Which is my point. Who knows what happened?

Then again I keep thinking to myself even if Ben did call him, "IT'S ONLY A PHONE CALL!!!". So what do I know?

It just amazes me that one could get so worked up over a phone call and a press conference. When the regular season comes around and if he starts becoming a trouble maker, then I will voice my final opinion on the kid. But some are chewing out the kid and pegging him as the next "Plax" when he hasn't even played a down of pro ball.

I agree. I've said it before, everyman deserves a chance a or two. Let's watch him for couple of seasons, and then we'll know for sure. But somebody must teach the kid something about the condom and how to use it or something that sort.

[83-Steelers-43]

Originally Posted by SteelersMongol

I agree. I've said it before, everyman deserves a chance a or two. Let's watch him for couple of seasons, and then we'll know for sure. But somebody must teach the kid how to use a condom.

Seasons? Hell, your more generous than me....lol. If this kid starts making trouble this season I would strongly debate on giving him the boot. I'm just willing to give the kid a chance to prove himself through training camp (see how he handles the talks with Cowher and Co.) and how he handles himself during the regular season.

As for the condom.........I agree 100%.

[siss]

Plax 2.0 not calling Ben back is the equivalent of landing your dream job and then getting a call from the CEO and not calling him back. I would think that Holmes would have called Ben anyway. Seeing as how he was just in a life altering accident the week before. But thats just me.
Look no one was more excited about Holmes then me. Go back and look at some of my post from the draft. I gave him a pass on the kids. I gave him a pass on the first arrest (sounded like a lot of people were arrested that weekend) but I'm sorry there is no exuse for domestic violence. I dont care who you are. Something obvioulsy happend for him to be arrested. And him not calling ben back just adds to my beleif that he lacks maturity. By the way Plax 2.0 is my age.
Plus if you read his comments he is in total denial about the situation. He has'nt done a damn thing yet. Ben at least apologized several times to the media and his teamates and his coaches for his trangresions. I havnt seen that from Holmes. He may turn out to be the best wide out we have ever had, and if Im wrong then I will gladly eat crow, but he's not starting off very well in my book.

[LambertLunatic]

Why make an issue out of him not apologizing? Had he apologized, he'd have been conceding that he had something to] apologize for. This wouldn't be a wise thing to do before going to court. I'd assume that his lawyer told him not to make any public apologies.

[BIGBENFASTWILLIE]

hopefully he gets the whole.."TEAM" in his head during preseason.....If not then willie reid will be taking his place

[BBC]

Super Bowl MVP Hines Ward said he worked out with Holmes all week in Pittsburgh before camp and doesn't believe the Steelers drafted a troubled player.

"I don't make much out of it. It doesn't bother me," Ward said of Holmes' two arrests. "He's here now, and we can't worry about what he did, only (about) his growth and maturity once he's around all the veteran guys who know what it takes. He's eager to learn and he's always asking questions."

I'm with Hines on this one...

I really don't see how Santonio is even close to Plaxico. He hasn't demanded to leave Pittsburgh, hasn't called our fans racist, and hasn?t even dropped a pass yet. Let's see what the kid can do before we chastise him.

[siss]

Originally Posted by LambertLunatic

Why make an issue out of him not apologizing? Had he apologized, he'd have been conceding that he had something to] apologize for. This wouldn't be a wise thing to do before going to court. I'd assume that his lawyer told him not to make any public apologies.

I would like him to apolgize for the disruption to the team. Like Ben did.

[BB2W]

I have a feeling all the Holmes bashers will think differently of him once he has the ball in the open field.

[MasterOfPuppets]

i don't feel he owes the fans an apology no more than ben did. what the man does in his personal life is his own damn business just like us.if you got into trouble ,do you feel a need to go to work and call a meeting to make an apology to your fellow employees or customers? hell no! it ain't nobodys business but your own. now the whole phone call thing is a different matter. holmes is basically calling ben a liar,saying he never called him. why would ben go on record saying he's tried to get in touch with him when he didn't? you and knew about it weeks ago,so why did holmes not?