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Old 09-04-2012, 03:18 PM   #1
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Default Steelers too OLD... here we go again

I listen to Colin Cowherd daily (hour & a half commute). He is usually pretty fair... and accurate. He respects the Steelers... has mentioned how he wishes that he grew up in Pittsburgh, so that he'd be a Steelers fan.

Anyway...

He was talking about the "window closing" for the Steelers, because they are getting old.

BB is an old 30 (I agree with that... but, even then, BB has 5 more years left in him).

Troy, Ryan Clark, & Ike Taylor are all over 30. (Again, I agree.)

Harrison is 32... and often injured. (Agreed)

Now... here is where he falls into the pitfall that other talking heads normally dive into. [I am surprised, because CC is usally more "researched" in hyis statements.]

Brett Keisel & Casey Hampton are over 30. (Cameron Hayward & Steve McClendon are young.)

Max Starks is over 30... and often injured. (I can kind of agree, but the rest of the O-line is young... and Mike Adams could still pan out.)

Heath Miller is 29 (Tight ends can play until they are 35; not worried.)

Let's look at the starters:

BB - 30
Heath - 29
Starks - 30
The Colon: 27
DD, Pouncey, Gilbert, & Adams: young, young, young, young.
Brown, Sanders, Wallace: young
RBs: All of them are young.

Troy, Clark, & Ike: 30+
Lewis, Allen, & Brown: young, young, young.
Harrison: 32
Woodley, Timmons: young
Spence/Sly: young
Heyward & Hood: young
McClendon & Ta'amu: young

I remember people worried when Greg Lloyd got cut (enter Jason Gildon). I remember when people worried that Gildon was too old (enter Joey Porter). I remember when Joey Porter got too old (enter James Harrison). Chris Carter has looked good... and gets better with every game/every day of coaching. Cortez Allen looks like Ike Taylor, part II. No one will ever replace Troy... but, then again, people also thought that no one could ever replace Carnell Lake.

Yes, some of the key names that we all know & love are getting old, but there are young, talented players aplenty, waiting in the wings.

BB is the only "irreplaceable" player... and, like I said, he has 5 more years left in him. Heck, I'd be fine with 3 more years: a three-peat, followed by retirement (at 33).
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Old 09-04-2012, 03:31 PM   #3
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Default Re: Steelers too OLD... here we go again

Too old too slow yup yup yup yadda yadda yadda..... they gotta attempt to shoot the best D in the league down some how.
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Too old too slow yup yup yup yadda yadda yadda..... they gotta attempt to shoot the best D in the league down some how.
better offense this year will make it not necessary to have the best defense. but that will be a cherry on top

the only thing that concerns me about this team is how healthy we can stay. if we can avoid any major injuries this season we will be a championship contender
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:45 PM   #5
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better offense this year will make it not necessary to have the best defense. but that will be a cherry on top

the only thing that concerns me about this team is how healthy we can stay. if we can avoid any major injuries this season we will be a championship contender
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With the offensive weapons we have this year, this could be the year when our O will be able to bail out the D on a consistent basis.

Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Cotch, Heath, Redman, Rainey, a healthy Mendy, mature Ben....if the O-line does its job and we stay healthy, watch out.
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Default Re: Steelers too OLD... here we go again

Ryan Clark and Ike Taylor might be old in football years, but they've been pretty consistently healthy. They'll hold up for a few more years.

I'm worried about Troy though, he's been banged up pretty bad the past couple of years.
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better offense this year will make it not necessary to have the best defense. but that will be a cherry on top

the only thing that concerns me about this team is how healthy we can stay. if we can avoid any major injuries this season we will be a championship contender
For this year... and the years upcoming, the offense will be betetr than the defense. BB is hitting his prime, and has some serious weapons at his disposal.

Health is a major factor... this year, and in the immediate future. BB has to stay healhty. A good O-line helps with this. DD coming back next year, helps with this. BB learning from Haley to throw more quickly (dump off to the RB), helps with this.
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Default Re: Steelers too OLD... here we go again

. Doesn't matter how many young guys replace older players, the Steelers will be called old till every player that was around for the 2008 SB retires. It's the new in thing for commentators. When they start talking about the age of Baltimore like they do us might start gaining some credibility, as for now, it's becoming a cliche.
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"Old, slow, and done..... that's what coach Gruden told me when Tampa Bay let me go in free agency."
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I listen to Colin Cowherd daily (hour & a half commute). He is usually pretty fair... and accurate. He respects the Steelers... has mentioned how he wishes that he grew up in Pittsburgh, so that he'd be a Steelers fan.

Anyway...

He was talking about the "window closing" for the Steelers, because they are getting old.

BB is an old 30 (I agree with that... but, even then, BB has 5 more years left in him).

Troy, Ryan Clark, & Ike Taylor are all over 30. (Again, I agree.)

Harrison is 32... and often injured. (Agreed)

Now... here is where he falls into the pitfall that other talking heads normally dive into. [I am surprised, because CC is usally more "researched" in hyis statements.]

Brett Keisel & Casey Hampton are over 30. (Cameron Hayward & Steve McClendon are young.)

Max Starks is over 30... and often injured. (I can kind of agree, but the rest of the O-line is young... and Mike Adams could still pan out.)

Heath Miller is 29 (Tight ends can play until they are 35; not worried.)

Let's look at the starters:

BB - 30
Heath - 29
Starks - 30
The Colon: 27
DD, Pouncey, Gilbert, & Adams: young, young, young, young.
Brown, Sanders, Wallace: young
RBs: All of them are young.

Troy, Clark, & Ike: 30+
Lewis, Allen, & Brown: young, young, young.
Harrison: 32
Woodley, Timmons: young
Spence/Sly: young
Heyward & Hood: young
McClendon & Ta'amu: young

I remember people worried when Greg Lloyd got cut (enter Jason Gildon). I remember when people worried that Gildon was too old (enter Joey Porter). I remember when Joey Porter got too old (enter James Harrison). Chris Carter has looked good... and gets better with every game/every day of coaching. Cortez Allen looks like Ike Taylor, part II. No one will ever replace Troy... but, then again, people also thought that no one could ever replace Carnell Lake.

Yes, some of the key names that we all know & love are getting old, but there are young, talented players aplenty, waiting in the wings.

BB is the only "irreplaceable" player... and, like I said, he has 5 more years left in him. Heck, I'd be fine with 3 more years: a three-peat, followed by retirement (at 33).
I disagree about Ben being irreplaceable, to this extent, he can be replaced if enough effort is put into it, but it's not time yet. I just hope he can be coached now. We really haven't seen what he is capable of yet, if he will buy into an offense that will use him properly. He's had problems with that in the past.
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