Should Dwyer Start Ove Redman????

[MasterOfPuppets]

Originally Posted by FrancoLambert

Dwyer has a nice upside.
His style of running, power with more speed than Redman.

but redman was supposed to be the upside...

suddeness / glide > power / speed

[Fire Arians]

i say run both of em, then we can nickname em method man and redman

[Bayz101]

Alright. We'll get the Dwyer the start, and as soon as that happens, i'll countdown the time until a "Start Baron Batch" thread is created.

It's simple. The Backup's look good because the defense isn't always prepared for the skills in which they bring to the table. That's why Redman looked so good when Mendy was in.

[El-Gonzo Jackson]

Originally Posted by tony hipchest

and did you see him spin into the endzone when he finally scored? he spins TOO much... i wish he'd lose that damn spin move.

Yes, I cant figure out if we should nickname him "Redspin", Danceman or "Sudden-spin and Slide"

[tony hipchest]

Originally Posted by El-Gonzo Jackson

Yes, I cant figure out if we should nickname him "Redspin", Danceman or "Sudden-spin and Slide"

good thinkin... we do need a nickname for our running back duo-

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redman dances and dwyer is money.... laundered money... that has been in the washer and dwyer.

...and steelerfans dont root for the person, they root for the laundry.

[ricardisimo]

Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

everybody loves the backup...

only took em one game to hop off redmans nuts onto dwyers....

I cannot wait until Mendy comes back and spins his way back into everyone's hearts.

[Hawaii 5-0]

Steelers, Raiders search for running games

Posted: Saturday September 22, 2012
by SI.com

OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) - The Oakland Raiders and Pittsburgh Steelers spent the offseason implementing new offenses designed to rely heavily on running games that could take a little pressure off their passers.

Two weeks into the season, neither running game has gotten off the ground.

Despite having a healthy Darren McFadden for a change, the Raiders (0-2) go into Sunday's game against the Steelers (1-1) with the league's second worst rushing attack.

"You don't let it frustrate you. The saving grace is, you know McFadden is back there,'' Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer said. "He's one arm tackle away from breaking off a 40-, 50-yarder. He's got that potential, he's got that ability, he's done it before. We're going to stick with it. We're not frustrated. We're disappointed in ourselves for not executing it better but we're not going to let it frustrate us, we're not going to let it deter it from our goal.''

The Steelers haven't had much better luck running the ball so far this season in new coordinator Todd Haley's offense.

Pittsburgh has rushed for just 141 yards the first two weeks and averaged a paltry 2.6 yards per carry, putting more pressure on Ben Roethlisberger and the passing game to get things going.

"It's obviously been a little frustrating because that was the emphasis of the offseason, getting a new coordinator, is running the ball and being able to pound it,'' Roethlisberger said. "But it's not working quite this minute and things aren't going well.''

The Raiders have been much worse with just 68 yards rushing per game in losses to San Diego and Miami. For a team that has stressed being a run-first offense under coordinator Greg Knapp, it's not hard to figure why the offense has sputtered so much with a running game that can't get going.

McFadden, who missed the final nine games last season with a foot injury, is healthy but not productive. He has 54 yards on 26 carries as he once again has struggled while playing in a zone blocking system.

Knapp brought back the system the Raiders used in McFadden's first two seasons, which were filled with disappointments. McFadden emerged as one of the league's top backs once Hue Jackson brought his offense to Oakland that stressed more power running.

McFadden averaged 5.3 yards per carry under Jackson, compared to 3.7 in the other systems. The main difference has been the lack of big plays. He has also gone from having one of every 15 runs go for at least 20 yards to one of every 49.

"I just feel like going with the zone system is one of those situations where you're going to have to keep hitting it until you get going,'' McFadden said. "It's going to be 1 yard here or 2 yards there, but eventually it's going to start popping.''

The Steelers hope it's not this week.

"We know he's an explosive back and can go off at any time,'' defensive lineman Casey Hampton said. "We know that. We're very aware. We're not taking it for granted.''

Facing the Steelers stout defense has not usually been the tonic to cure struggling running games over the years. Pittsburgh has allowed the fewest yards rushing per game over the past 10 seasons because of its physical front and sure-tackling secondary.

In two games against the Steelers, McFadden has 39 yards on 19 carries.

"It's going to be a rough, tough fist fight out there,'' he said. "They are going to come in here with a hard-nose defense, and you know that's something you expect from the Steelers. We just have to go out there, and play our game, and stay on schedule.''

Roethlisberger has made up for the deficiencies in Pittsburgh's running game with sterling play on third downs. He has completed 19 of 25 passes for 251 yards, three touchdowns and a passer rating of 146.8 on third down, allowing Pittsburgh to overcome the long yardage situations created by the lack of a running game.

The Steelers had been hoping to get a boost Sunday with the possible return of starter Rashard Mendenhall, who had his practice workload increase throughout the week. But he was eventually ruled out against the Raiders. He hasn't played since injuring his right knee in last season's finale against Cleveland.

With Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman sharing the load, the Steelers have had a league-worst 18.5 percent of their runs go for negative yards.

A boost could come from playing a Raiders team that allowed 263 yards rushing last week to Miami, including 190 in the second half.

"It would probably help if we had Reggie Bush, but we don't,'' Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said. "They played to their strengths and did it well and were able to get the things done that they desired to do, but obviously we have our personality and we're going to try to stay within that and play to that.''

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz27C6tqqD8

[ricardisimo]

Originally Posted by Hawaii 5-0

Steelers, Raiders search for running games

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"It would probably help if we had Reggie Bush, but we don't,'' Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said. "They played to their strengths and did it well and were able to get the things done that they desired to do, but obviously we have our personality and we're going to try to stay within that and play to that.''

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...#ixzz27C6tqqD8

That is coldblooded... but it might just be the motivation Redman needs.

[GoFor7]

Originally Posted by ricardisimo

That is coldblooded... but it might just be the motivation Redman needs.

He needs to stop tap dancing and looking hesitant more than anything else.

[TheVet]

Running backs need holes, and holes are created by offensive lines. And we still don't have one of those.

The Tomlin quote is annoying, to say the least - especially with his "above the line" crap. Why not call out the OL, Mike? Because it would do no good, and everybody knows it. Those guys are doing their best, but most of them don't belong on an NFL line.

So let's all just pretend that one of the backs will be the silver bullet while we wait for DD, and hope that Adams progresses.

In the meantime, maybe Colon can help out by learning the snap count and practicing pulling this week. Maybe Gilbert can try to remember what he figured out as a rookie. Maybe Foster could decide to get tough.

God, Max Starks might be our second best lineman right now. Unreal.