Who do you blame for this loss?

[bornaSteelersfan]

1) Penalties!!! The Beard on 4th and goal?! Come on! Keenan big PI to let them go down field?! O-Line constant penalties making it hard for us to continue (especially on last drive).

2) Fumble by AB! Stop show-boating and hold on to the damned ball! You should have learned after the lucky break for the TD.

3) Ryan Mundy can't cover or tackle! He is the reason McFadden got that TD, caught on his heels. He will be fined heavy for that hit on Heyward-Bey.

4) Carson Palmer! Give him credit for the constant adjustments. He took a page from Peyton Manning's book on beating LeBeau. He called a hell of a game.

5) Once again our 2 star defensive players are out. As Harrison and Polamalu go, so does the defense.

[steeltheone]

Originally Posted by SteeleReign

Totally agree! Too many on this board assume that the return of Troy and Silverback will get our defense back on track. Unfortunately, not true.

Here are the defensive issues, IMHO...

1. Age: Troy, Harrison, Hampton, Kiesel are all on the downside of their careers. You could make the case that Kiesel and Hampton are actually hurting the defense. I'd even say that Troy's days of "free-styling" all over the field should be over. He doesn't have the speed anymore to show blitz and then get back in coverage.

2. Injuries: Troy and Hampton can't stay on the field. Woodley has had his issues with injuries as well.

3. Under-performing talent or just over-rated talent: Hood and Timmons. To a degree, I'd say that Ike Taylor belongs on this list. He has not been as good as last year. I feel that his performance last year against Denver may have affected his confidence.

4. Unproven youth: Keenan Lewis, Curtis Brown, Cortez Allen, McLendon, and Cam Heyward

5. Just go away: Ryan Mundy

6. Schemes: I love LeBeau and am not willing to lay the blame at his feet. I believe that, with the right combo of youth and talent, his defense can still work. However, given the current roster, some changes need to be made. Either dumb down the playbook to allow the young guys like McLendon and Heyward to make an impact or find SOME way to pressure the QB with the old guard.

So...the only players that are currently making a significant impact on defense are Foote and Ryan Clark. I'd actually call Clark our defensive MVP to this point.

Lets not forget, Ike is no spring chicken either....

[MeanGee2047]

Originally Posted by Killer

Ben had 384 yds and 4TD's....anybody that blames the offense is a complete idiot


LeBeau's dogshit pass defense has to go - I'd start cutting tomorrow

Oakland had 3 DB's off the waiver wire starting that weren't even on the team 2 weeks ago and they played better than our worthless bums - we can do just as well....cut every last one of these new Young Gun DB's and get on the damn phone and go get some cast-offs - pronto - maybe another D coordinator around the league has actually taught somebody how to play defense.

Carson ****ing Palmer?

are you kidding me?

Thank you! Our corners suck....the linebackers look to fat and slow and did I mention our corners suck? Why are they playing so far off the wr's? And how does Mundy keep making this team?

[MeanGee2047]

I blame the defense, AB and the refs....that offside call on 4th and one was horrible....on ref looked like he was asking one of Oakland's lineman what happened. One lineman and 2 in the backfield were moving....that's what happened!!!! Idiots!!!

[silver & black]

Originally Posted by Darkstorm05

The Raiders.

[Killer]

Originally Posted by MeanGee2047

Thank you! Our corners suck....the linebackers look to fat and slow and did I mention our corners suck? Why are they playing so far off the wr's? And how does Mundy keep making this team?

Mundy is horrible - but you know LeBeau won't dare let anyone without 5 years experience play in his completely stupid outdated defensive scheme.

3rd and 4 and your corners line up 10 yds off....brilliant!

If the Jets receivers didn't drop a dozen balls against us, we'd be 0-3.

[Darkstorm05]

Originally Posted by steelersforever58

No disrespect darkstorm, but to mention showboating just doesn't make sense. Anytime a player is running in the open field the possibility of having the ball knocked out is there. Had he broken away and scored everyone would be singing his praises. I have no problem with Antonio Brown.

Open field? Are you talking about the same play? Brown had like 3 guys hanging off him trying to strip the ball and he kept trying to power on. He had just made a 20 yard reception into Raiders territory and we were up at that point. It was pointless to do what he did.

[Steelerfreak58]

1. Penalties.
2. The Defense (if I can really call it that)
3. Turn overs.

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by harrison'samonster

the second fumble by AB was pretty bad. it reminds me of mistakes Randle El use to make. Brown will learn from it.

Who do I blame? they lost as a team. The entire team lost the game. That defense should have been able to hold on to a ten point lead. But the offense needs to be able to control the ball in the last quarter.

Good point but we've taken a couple of killer penalties which didn't help controlling the ball on O either.

[plenewken]

Originally Posted by Killer

Mundy is horrible - but you know LeBeau won't dare let anyone without 5 years experience play in his completely stupid outdated defensive scheme.

3rd and 4 and your corners line up 10 yds off....brilliant!

If the Jets receivers didn't drop a dozen balls against us, we'd be 0-3.

True. We didn't beat the Jets, the Jets lost. Big difference.